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by Duderino on 08 August 2011 - 22:08

I can't read that stuff, that's why I asked if you were from the States.  If not, then I understand and will do my best to tough it out.  If you are from the States, and English is your primary language, freakin' learn it.  Your use of punctuation and sentence structure hurts my head.  I usually (if I take 1/2 an hour to read them) just skim over your posts and try to get the gist of what you are saying but then I have to stay away from coffee for 3 days or my head feels like it's stuck in a bench vise.  Please don't respond any more, I've already removed my glasses and my face hurts from squinting.  Let's just say that Ivan has helped a lot of people both here and abroad to build better relationships with their dogs and compete at higher levels than you have or even I have for that matter.  If you're happy with what you do fine, but you can't argue with success. 

by ALPHAPUP on 09 August 2011 - 00:08

Dude.. the subject is not about Ivan .. he was the thread originator .the subject isd about his training video .. From what i was able to observe playing the posted thread video ,  there was a descript training problem . However , i saw no commentary as to how the problem can come about , how to prevent it and how to reconcile it . So what value is that ? Generally i do not buy videos , books at this point . however once in a while i will come across something , either given to me to review or something that really perks my interest for me to recc.  to  some of my friends . I would have been really glad to have seen that video clip and say/ post here : " wow .. you folks should really consider some of the other DVDs that i have heard about " but realistically [ again qualified  by what i saw] i don't know if that is something that i could reccomendhaven  seen  that video .. I explained why - such as : why wait until the dog is 10 feet away of the mistake and 30 seconds later . IMO dog training is 'Timing' [ yes?] and in that exercise 'location' [yes?] . IMO it is best to 1. learn how to prevent the mistake and if it occurs 2. it is  best to communicate , kindly to the dog :  "wrong not correct , this is correct " ,  at the exact moment and the exact place the dog is incorrect. Now that is just my opinion .. either it makes sense to you or not. As far as  not being dependent on the leash .. GEE this is a fundamental i taught in dog training classes - i didn't have the people hold the leash .. i didn't want the owners to become dependent on using the leash or the dogs only responding by use of the leash .. in other posts , i frequently stated 'the responsibility [ for attention and other things] should be on the dog . Now this concept is not enlightening .. it is not ' the here and now' .. i have taught that for 20 years about the most effective way of usoing that tool . ! Beleive me , i would have loved to have  seen that video and say  ,"i  learned something , and now i bettered myself and can share that with others" . remember i am not being critical .. it was a critque  !  .  a critque in regards to a video , which i have not heard  ANY rebutle to . Nor from you either duderino .. as i matter of fact - i would like to hear from the people reading this thread if they felt they leraned something from that video , if it helped them , and if that motivated them to buy any of his videos [ aside from what the they have heard]. And .. since ivan was kind to place that video here ..that would be fair to him too, perhaps helpful .. what say you all ?

Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 09 August 2011 - 01:08

Alpha, you can say whatever you want. You have that right. But I don't understand your statement of Ivan training a dog other than a "top dog". He has done hundreds of seminars all over the world. Do you think everyone that attends has a top dog? I've trained with him, and if I could, I would train with him every week. Do I treat everything that comes out of his mouth as gold? No, but then again, I always give it some thought. I've disagreed with him, but he is still the best trainer I've had the pleasure to train with.

steve1

by steve1 on 09 August 2011 - 07:08

I have heard of Ivan but that is as far as it goes, He has proven himself to be an excellent Dog trainer and competitor, Now making money from his experiences nothing wrong in that.
However this fellow or Lady who posts on on here under the name of ALFAPUP. I will give the title of male to make the explaining easier
His posts take a lot of reading through sometimes his spelling is not so good as other times, and at times he goes off on a tangent but always comes back and with the answer, I write that way at times in my pigeon Articles and WHY' it makes people THINK and RE READ, then they get the true meaning of what is being said in the letter.
I do not know if English is ALFAPUPS first language but that to me does not matter. What he writes and says is the thing which matters most and when he gives advice it is SOUND advice , some posters you can see it is very much as if it is copied from a page in a book. That is not the case with ALPHAPUP, he is saying it from experience and from the heart nothing is made up it just natural experience, No' he talks a lot of sense and i think is a very good trainer of a dog everytime ALPHA posts if you read the post he works the way that is the correct way meaning getting it right from the beginning and try not to let the dog make a mistake so you will have no need to correct it, PLus he never scorns what anyone says but always replies in a polite manner which is a mark of a very nice person
IF you you have to fight with your dog or force it to get the message across to it that is no good at all.
 Over here it is meant' that you never fight with your Dog Because if you do then you the handler will lose the BATTLE, everything must be taken in a calm manner The rest i have said time and time again. Because if you do not and you fight with your dog when trying to get it to obey a command that it knows, Then you are going to lose the Battle the Dog will always win that way
Steve1

by ALPHAPUP on 09 August 2011 - 13:08

thank you Steve1 - i appreciate your post....  
                 for the record for eveyone  : i know my writing is not very good .. as i  write my posts , i am most often in a lot of physical pain ! writing the posts are a physical challenge at this time  and ten times the effort as normally would be . Typing for me is an enormous effort  and i write the posts not for my self but for others . So , my apologies for the mis spellings and the awkward sentences.   RE: the long posts -  As i just wrote a friend [ taken from the Monks of New Skete's Book  ] : " there is no training without explaining" .      

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 09 August 2011 - 14:08


    Alpha,  I do not find your posts hard to read once I get the hang of your writing style...; ) I find taking the time to read them very worth my time....Thank you for your polite manner..: )


     BTW, if Duderino is who I think he is...;)   I recall having quite a lengthy phone conversation with him about my male....free. of charge..: ) ...His bark is much worse then his bite...He is quite nice, ...:)  inspite of his sassy posts...: )


Deanna...:)

by beetree on 09 August 2011 - 15:08

Yeah, Ruger1, I agree... Duderino is really a big, old, softie, he just doesn't want anybody to know it! 

(Alpha & Steve1, just hit the paragraph button every now and then, that should solve the problem of readability. I appreciate both of your POV's and sharing of your long time experience even with a simple pet person like me.)

....It seems kind of obvious to me that Ivan posted this as a "teaser" , and if one wants to get the practical problem solving information implied, he wants you to buy the answer... the video lesson. My 2 (probably worthless) cents, LOL

steve1

by steve1 on 09 August 2011 - 18:08

Beetree
You mean to say you cannot read my Posts then you had better show me how to by re writing my last post to ALPHAPUP and show us all how it is done.
I find a lot on here write the way i think is wrong but i do not voice the fact, And the spell check is for the American vocabulary not the English way of speaking the language, and we spoke it long before you Guys over there ever did COMMA' for instance COLOR  English Language is COLOUR
And whist i am at it many of you do not finish a sentence at all but add meaningless LAMO sort of letters and i for one do not recognize that as the English language or understand those kind of abbreviations that is a bloody idle way of putting a letter together and arrogant as well, WHY is it, because you guys to expect people of all races to understand those letters is just as i say arrogant but we do not voice that fact simply because we know it is an American expression and normally would not bother as it would never change anyway,
Sorry but i am not going back to School for anyone I left school at 15 years old, the very next day i was working a full 9 hour day and did so for 40 years. If you do not understand my stlyle of writing them best not bother to read them.
Steve1

by beetree on 09 August 2011 - 19:08

Steve, take it easy big guy! I didn't mean you can't write, just it would be easier for your readers if there were some paragraph breaks. And those letters, are abbreviations reflecting how the computer age has altered the way we communicate. The youth of today are embracing it and it isn't going away so you might despise it, and frankly so do I, but the alternative is to be "left behind". Time for a sandwich, I'm feeling a bit hungry, later.



PS: If you are really serious and want me to re-write one of your posts to illustrate what I'm talking about, I could do that for you, but I don't think that you would actually appreciate it.

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 09 August 2011 - 19:08

  Sandwiches are going to be all the rage  here, I can see it now.

I hate the LMAO one, but I gotta admit, I did laugh (not MAO as I like it) but I had a good laugh at LAMO.  


Steve's posts I read, because they are always so refreshingly frank, AP's, my eyes glaze over a bit, must be the ...'s wink






 


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