raw chicken - Page 4

Thank you Miss Debbie  ...You typed the words right off my pc board.  Horses , which are my speciality,  sit in a dangerous condition of barnyards and eat corn and oats , hay and dinner eveyday with flies , gnats and every bug ,even with tags and sprays, and their digestion center is amazing.

Reason: God designed the world with every animal doing a job, and animals have jobs than help human beings stay on this earth....

and some of the jobs are eat and clean up the jobsite of earth of all the filth..

We eat corn meal that if sits for a month in the cupboard has weavils,in it...do they hatch in us when we eat corn meal...flour you bread your chicken with does the same,,,,a banana has fruit flie eggs on the ends where you tear the peel off....do they hatch inside us?

Sunsilver: Im glad I'm not in the medical profession, they know too much,,  I lost my appetite tonight , was going to have beef tenderloin filets, but I seired them and gave them to the dogs....I'll eat cheese and crackers, pineapple , strawberries, and ice cream for supper....no bacteria or parasites that I know about   and don't tell me, either...please...

OK, as far as raw chicken goes" I feed it alot. My dogs do not tolerate the backs though. I also soak the chicken in grape fruit seed extract. It will kill any bacteria. I never did this until my SAR dog started bleeding from the rectum and had to rush him to the vet. He got a paracite from chicken. No it was not left out. I STILL feed chicken but soak it. I also feed venison however, I do brown it.. EVERYTHING else is raw, fish, meat.

Cooked bones are brittle and will splinter not raw bones. Hope this helps

That was interesting reading........I feed my own dogs raw chicken, both fresh and frozen and never had a problem.  AND I AM A VET!!  But I also feed kibble.  I have seen the issues of impaction with the raw diet, usually from too much bone too meat.  There is an increased chance of intestenial perferation, weight bearing bones seem to be a problem. 

COOKED CHICKEN BONES WILL SPLINTER because the heat changes the structure of the proteins......

But, very rarly do you see a raw fed dog bloat!  That is a kibble problem!  Remember there are two sides to every fence.  Kibble is a highly refined process that changes the proteins and the bodies ability to utilize them. 

Most veterinarians have a very solid science background.  We are comfortable with studies that undergo peer review, with results that we can then apply to our practice.  The science is pretty solid in the benefits of kibble as well. 

In further persuit of my own knowledge, I read about Pottenger's Cats (google it) and that started me down the road to the raw diet.  I hope to completely convert myself in the near future (fighting my scientific self).  I follow the Whole Prey Theory and am not a fan of Ian Billinghurst stuff.  When I worked with some clinical veterinary nurtitionalists, his recommemded diets were found to be not balanced.

Read this URL and tell me what you all think (this is an unscientific study):

http://rawfed.com/myths/feedraw.html

Julie Irwin, DVM

Thanks Julie,,,for a sensible input to all this...My vet has shared the same points you just rendered....Helps see thing more clearly...Bloat is one bad thing and Kibble is to blame  unless you add lots of green tripe or raw meat with it,,,,,,or soak it and my dogs don't eat soaked kibble very well...

What about the soaked in grape fruit seed extract . Now , that is a new one to me. There is the answer to the chicken scare.