I Hate Breeders - Page 4

What a shame....gives a pathetic example on how the "Hippocratic Oath" has changed to the "Hypocritical Oath".....
Nice going "Doc"....I'm sure the patients at your supposed clinic, can sleep peacfully.....as you smile.... with your hand out while they walk in the front door....and your middle finger up as they walk out the same door......

BASIC VET....

If this is your moniker.....Start looking for another prefession.   Was you license revoked, or were you reported in your State for something? I am not a breeder, but sometimes the breeder does know more than their Vet regarding their animals. They are around them  24/7, and see them on a daily basis, and know them inside out!

They are good when it comes for money in your pocket! So much for.... DO NO HARM and the oath you took!

 

Kristine Preiser DVM, Herb Preiser DVM, THE BEST! (FOR ME AND MY DOGS!)

What posting prompted this response from the vet? 

I think the vet is out of line, but I also have read now on this very forum, for years, thread after thread after thread of slamming comments about vets. While in any profession there are people who do not live up to the expectations we all have, I will say that in my long experience with vets that most are capable and care about what they do. They also have a right to earn a living in our capitalist society.

Their training often is not sufficient to provide them with the expertise to deal with all but the routine. But that is not their fault. It is the fault of the system, and an ever-expanding capability to heal and treat. Just like an ER visit, one is going to pay. Sometimes the person who is not knowledgeable is taken advantage of in both situations. But here, where so many of you are often disrespectful to vets, not just an individual, but the profession as a whole, you inflame the situation even more.

The vets I know give generously of their time and do lots of pro bono work. The vets I know are happy to admit they don't know everything and are glad to accept my suggestions about a course of action. Actually, in some instances the vets I know have even asked me about a dog and a course of treatment for a dog who is not mine, who has EPI for example, or some other condition specific to the breed. They know I may have some tidbit that might help. But the vets I know also have come to my house in the middle of the night, on weekends, met me at the clinic in an emergency etc. Why? Because I respect them and what they can do, and I do not begrudge them making some money off me. The vets I know make about $50,000 a year, sometimes a bit more, sometimes less, and have thousands of dollars in student loans. There are limited numbers of vet candidates accepted annually into the few vet schools, and that too helps drive up costs because in our society people often want a pet, regardless of whether they actually should have one or not. Even routine vet care these days is not cheap, anymore than routine medical checkups are for humans. 

I am not defending what this person wrote. Nor do I defend someone who has made an egregious error in treating a dog. And I am certainly not going to defend, in blanket fashion, breeders. But I do think that if one thinks about this rationally, one can understand the perspective of the person posting. I have no clue what prompted the post, who they are, or what kind a person or vet they are. But I, for one, do not begrudge them from practicing good emergency medicine and I know that will be expensive if I am forced to use it. Unfortunately, like many, sometimes things happen at the worst of times financially. No one likes to put a beloved dog down if it might be saved, but also the clinic and the vet have a right to make a living and to charge for their skills. And no, I doubt seriously that most of you know how to do a C section or other surgery. I know a lot too, having practiced human emergency medicine, and I too have spent countless hours with vet friends helping in surgery etc. I know animal and human anatomy, and I certainly know about physiology, but I would never consider doing surgery on my dogs. There are others who post here and on the forum too who are very knowledgeable, but don't begrudge the skills and knowledge of a good vet.

Maybe in the spirit of Thanksgiving and what we all have to be thankful for, we can just cut this person, or at least the profession a little charity.

Hodie you do have a point, and we do not know why this person posted what they did and yes there are many great vets out there. I personily don't make a practice of using a vet that doesn't have after hours care. It has taken quite a long time to find the one that I use today.

As for cutting this one a break well than she / he ought to cut some of us good responsible breeder the same.

I agree ghostly. Generalizations, be they about vets, or breeders are not very useful. My vet, for what it is worth, does not do after hours care, but has been very generous to answer my calls and help in emergencies. None the less, I am always prepared to have to go elsewhere. But I would know enough to know what was going to be warranted vs just nice to do in terms of care received. And, in my situation, should a dog require expensive surgery, I am no longer able to say "do it" and would have to make the terrible choice of putting the dog down. But that is not the fault of the vet whom I would be using should I not be able to afford the required care.

Happy Thanksgiving.

That's pretty harsh BasicVet.  You can't lump 'em all together.  That's like saying all vets suck! 
I love my vet!  She's great.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Jen

Dawn- Dr Preiser is awesome! Another great vet in our area is Dr Rudawski in Fox Lake.

Oh, c'mon, this board does do a lot of vet bashing.   I can totally see both sides of the situation: good breeders who know more about dog breeding and genetics than most small animal vets (and why shouldn't they? Vets are animal doctors, not animal breeders), and vets, God bless 'em, who must get so tired of the endless parade of crappy breeders and/or careless dog owners who think they know everything but are simply incredibly ignorant, and their animals suffer accordingly.

Remember that for every wonderful, knowledgeable, caring breeder a veterinarian sees, I'd bet they see 20 horrible ones.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, good vets and good breeders alike!  I know I'm very thankful this year for the wonderful veterinarians who treat my dogs, cats, and horse, and I'm very thankful to the two different breeders from whom I bought my wonderful, wonderful, WONDERFUL German Shepherd Dogs.