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by MAINLYMAX on 04 September 2010 - 22:09
Jenn,
I have been very lucky I guess, have never had this
problem with my dogs. However metabolic upset is common
in horses. As per horseshoers will tell you. The hooves can
be come very unhealthy from to many carbohydrates. Also
stress will do it, you need to exercise the horses to keep
them healthy, with less chance of metabolic upset.
The soft joints are made up of cartilage as well an
can be suseptable to polysacaritosis. I have had less problems
with my Rottweilers than most people have with GSD.
And I don't know why that is. Perhaps they have a slower more forgiving
metabolism. These Vet question. But breeders are a very good resource.
I think that puppies that get out and play and have very little stress in
their lives have a better chance. Also dogs are carnivorous.
I have not had any rottwielers since early 90's, the only thing I worried
about was parvo. I made sure they got the shot in time. I have Malinois
and shepherds now.
I have been very lucky I guess, have never had this
problem with my dogs. However metabolic upset is common
in horses. As per horseshoers will tell you. The hooves can
be come very unhealthy from to many carbohydrates. Also
stress will do it, you need to exercise the horses to keep
them healthy, with less chance of metabolic upset.
The soft joints are made up of cartilage as well an
can be suseptable to polysacaritosis. I have had less problems
with my Rottweilers than most people have with GSD.
And I don't know why that is. Perhaps they have a slower more forgiving
metabolism. These Vet question. But breeders are a very good resource.
I think that puppies that get out and play and have very little stress in
their lives have a better chance. Also dogs are carnivorous.
I have not had any rottwielers since early 90's, the only thing I worried
about was parvo. I made sure they got the shot in time. I have Malinois
and shepherds now.
by oso on 04 September 2010 - 22:09
Don' t worry too much, the pasterns will almost certainly improve. Not long ago I saw a 4-5 month female like this, or worse, walking on the pasterns, the owners were thinking of returning her to the breeder, but did not in the end as they had already become too fond of her. When I saw her again at one year old she was totally normal, and the owners had not done anything special. Weak pasterns in puppies is not that unusual, but is much less often seen in adults, so I think it is something that will improve anyway. The glucosamine/chondroitin supplements could help, and exercise in moderation, make sure you do not have the puppy overweight.
by MAINLYMAX on 04 September 2010 - 22:09
Jenn,
I zostały bardzo szczęśliwy, I odgadnąć, mają nigdy nie miało to
problem z mojego psów. Jednakże wspólne jest metabolicznej upset
w konie. Jak na horseshoers tym użytkownika. Kopyta można
być pochodzić bardzo niezdrowy z wielu węglowodany. Również
stres będzie to zrobić, potrzebę wykonywania koni do utrzymania
im zdrowych, z mniejszą szansę metabolicznej upset.
Miękkie stawów składają się z chrząstki jak również
może być suseptable do polysacaritosis. Miałem mniej problemów
z mojego rottweiler niż większość ludzi mają z GSD.
I nie wiem dlaczego to jest. Być może mają one wolniej więcej umorzenie należności podatków dochodowych
metabolizm. Te pytanie VET. Ale hodowców są bardzo dobre zasobu.
Myślę, że szczenięta, które get out i odtwarzać i mają bardzo niewiele naprężeń w
ich życia mają lepsze szanse. Psy są także mięsożernych.
I nie miały żadnych rottwielers od wczesnego 90's, jedyną rzeczą I zmartwiony
około był parvo. I dokonanych upewnić się, że oni got strzał w czasie. Mam Malinois
i pasterzy teraz.
by oso on 04 September 2010 - 22:09
PS it looks like a nice puppy. And my dogs do very well on Royal Canin (not the giant breed one though!).
Good luck
Good luck
by Jenni78 on 04 September 2010 - 22:09
Max, I meant translate what the people like Molly had already said to the OP; I don't know what you actually wrote- it looks like Swahili to me, LOL. I know you're right about metabolic disorders in horses; I'm well aware of that. I was looking for you to take what had been suggested and translate it for the OP. Sorry for the confusion and thanks.
by MAINLYMAX on 05 September 2010 - 00:09
How is this Jenni,
Niższe białka jest dobre dla dużych rasy najbardziej szczenięta, ale ten puppy potrzebuje pomocy wzmocnienia jego ligaments pęcinie - on potrzebuje więcej białka.
Molly
How do we know Doc05 is not laughing his butt off?
Hey Doc 05 do you speak english??? Because my Polish is not that good.
Niższe białka jest dobre dla dużych rasy najbardziej szczenięta, ale ten puppy potrzebuje pomocy wzmocnienia jego ligaments pęcinie - on potrzebuje więcej białka.
Molly
How do we know Doc05 is not laughing his butt off?
Hey Doc 05 do you speak english??? Because my Polish is not that good.
by muldoon on 05 September 2010 - 00:09
I can't see the pictures, but reading between the lines I would go with less protein than more, and not stress too much and give it time. Exercise is important but find out what is right with the pup - you will know what he can cope with and simply keep it very short and frequent if possible and perhaps focus more on mental than physical stimulation to compensate, plenty of lead walks to prevent overdoing it, and yes definitely to soft surface walking like sand and softer ground.
by Jenni78 on 05 September 2010 - 01:09
Max, no, I sure don't. And you're right; the OP might very well be laughing his/her butt off, but hey, we're trying to help. LOL
And I have to say again, recommending LESS protein is NOT CORRECT in this situation. Especially from those who admittedly don't know what's wrong w/the pup because they haven't even looked at the pictures.
God, the poor puppy.
And I have to say again, recommending LESS protein is NOT CORRECT in this situation. Especially from those who admittedly don't know what's wrong w/the pup because they haven't even looked at the pictures.
God, the poor puppy.
by doctor05 on 05 September 2010 - 02:09
mainly max yes ispeak english very well istudy medicine in english and idid my post graduate in radiology also ,, hexe ifeed him royal canine for gaint because it for slow growth and much supplement of glucose amine and omega 3 and low prtien , pharoah igive all my dogs rotinly dorintal for protection and he had no diarhoea but ok iwill give hime treat ment for gardia . ddr dsh yes idid splint once by bandage and second by plaster of parisi but he is very active he took it off ,,nan s thank you idont konw iam confusing some advise walking on sold ground other on soft like sand other recomended high protien other low
by hexe on 05 September 2010 - 06:09
doctor05, I understand why you'd want him to mature slowly, but foods formulated for giant breeds aren't suitable for anything other than giant breeds--you can accomplish your goal of moderate growth rate simply by feeding an adult food instead of a puppy food, and the glucosamine/chonodroitin supplementation can be given separately (and tends to be more effective when given in that form, as opposed to when it's mixed into the feed and undergoes the processing). Ditto for Omega 3 supplementation; just pick up a bottle of Omega 3 fish oil capsules wherever you normally buy vitamins and supplements for yourself, and you can use those for your dog as well as yourself.
How old is your pup in the pictures on his pedigree page here, and how old is he in the photos you posted in this thread? How much of a change in weight has there been between the pedigree page pictures and the pictures in this thread? Knowing this may make it clearer as to whether he needs more protein or less...
How old is your pup in the pictures on his pedigree page here, and how old is he in the photos you posted in this thread? How much of a change in weight has there been between the pedigree page pictures and the pictures in this thread? Knowing this may make it clearer as to whether he needs more protein or less...
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