Baltimore K9 Video...Cruelty or Acceptable? - Page 5

What a wuss you are workingdog, these are real dogs not the show wussie dogs some of you people are used too. Hell the dog never even flinched, most of your dogs would have peed all over themselves. The DOG was NOT HURT period.

My last post on this thread...  I am right and you stupid shits are wrong period..bye

Sorry for bringing up yesterdays news. I just figured out how to pull these sites up and went back in time and saw this one and viewed it for the first time. Some good observations, I won't repeat but just wanted to add something, another  perspective on one aspect. The video was sad, the dog was not handler aggressive for sure but what was sad to me was the prospect of over dominating and causing the dog to be less then his potential. I want them to think they are king kong, not defeatable as long as it's channled. Just totally unecessary, and not productive.

JMO, I felt the dog should have bit the handler. I have been bit by my own dogs on two occasions and neither time did they recieve corrections for it. Once was confusion, not the dogs will full act, during a time of breaking the dog of outing to the agitators comand.  No correcton is necessary when the dog responds out of confusion, he new he screwed up. The other was the result of a harsh, unfair correction. The dog bit me real good on the hand and left me with a real good lesson. IMO the dog has a right to defend him/ herself against unfair corrections or over the top corrections. I do not see this as bad, infact I hope they will have the esteem to not take crap from me or any one. Too many dogs are corrected and corrected  to hard for responding the way they should. My hand was quite badly bitten but I instantly knew I had it coming and droped the matter and went to something fun. I should have treated her to a steak. Again, JMO

I agree largely with GARD. I am not a fan of the alpha rolling crap. There are other, more successful ways of dealing with aggression. Seems to me this guy is getting nowhere with the dog at all, at no point getting the appropriate behaviors he wanted from the dog, and the dog is spiraling into a further state of confusion and frustration. Likely this dog has control issues anyway, the dog may very very well need an "attitude adjustment" but I disagree with how it was done. I would also agree with whoever said teh trust here between handler and dog has been broken, something which should never happen if you are patient and consistent in your training.