Poultry Bones - Page 5

I read on here last night that someone feeds raw pork meaty bones to their dogs.....are dogs not susceptible to trichinosis(sp)? I would think that the encysted paracytes that are carried in many species muscle tissue, that is passed by ingestion of raw tissues, would be almost a bigger threat than bone splintering. How do you protect/ insure against parasitic infection from feeding raw tissues.....? I like the idea of a natural diet, but am worried about the parasites, & the bones, especially for my little girl with the plicated bowel.....! jh

Kali, yes, parasites in uncooked meat ARE a danger. However, due to stricter rules with the raising of swine these days, I believe the danger of trichinosis is extremely low, The risk is much higher if you're dealing with wild game. I've heard of hunters getting very ill from eating bear meat that wasn't properly cooked.

Edit: okay, sounds like dogs are not susceptible to trichinosis, but there are other parasites they can pick up from raw meat.

What bothers me about feeding raw is that raw carcasses are infected with hamful bacteria such as E. coli, Salmonella, camplyobacter, etc.

I picked up a very nasty case of Camplyobacter from eating undercooked chicken in a restaurant in London, England. It totally ruined the last few days of my vacation!

I gave each one of my dogs one handfull of raw meat (about the size of a tennis ball, cut up into 1/2" sq pieces) on Saturday morning , they pooped it out all starting Saturday early evening and continued through Sunday afternoon - we have a doggie door and they made it out all but once.........I had to hose down the grass to stop keep them from tracking it into the house. God what a mess!

Chicken bones,

Does your dog chew its food ?    Or does it woof it down with little chewing?

That might make a difference.

All commercial meats be it anything, are full of antibiotics and some hormones, and parasite preventatives.

Wild game is not.

Wolves eat more small animals by the numbers than large just so you know.  

Parasites are everywhere, not just in a piece of uncooked meat, they can be found in your so called safe drinking water, the soil, and in other nonmeat food items, fruits, vegetables.

The toxins are what we put on our crops and feed to our animals before slaughter, in the water we drink, bacteria is only bad if you have no immunity to them which most of us don't from eating processed products.

All dogs are not the same and none are like the wolf.

If I was going to feed my dogs chicken I would not cook it, but I'd be damned sure I washed everything that came in contact with it including my hands and all surfaces it touched.

I don't fed raw, I may feed leftovers, but I eat first before my dogs.   They must be able to survive on whatever they get or they are not dogs.   I serve the gourmey and fancy feast to my guests...LOL

Roll dem bones...... dem bones

I may get cut off mid post if my hubby pulls the plug on us, but when we adopted Wolf, the previous owner said that he was fed raw wild game, and he had such a parasite burden it took months to clean him out! The poor guy couldn't put any weight on, & needed special eye drops for some kind of parasitic disease he had, tick-bourne, I think it was Erlichiosis(sp?). Anyway, I know that raw wild game is no panacea for the ills of the world.....now a nice venison haunch slow roasted with garlic & red wine, well that might be!jh

As I posted here once before, just get in there and do some pooh-diving. You put on your rubber gloves and you examine the poop when it's freshly deposited, and i mean within five minutes. You will find that the chicken bone shards (the few that you can find) are kind of like hard rubber. After they dry, they get brittle again. The stomach acid keeps them sort of soft while they are inside. This goes for other scary things like walnut shells, too, but nbspdoes not apply in the case of cooked bones. The latter are sharp, hard, and brittle, and they cut innards to ribbons.

Sitasmom, you're feeding a recipe for the screaming sh!ts. Don't feed anything all cut up, and don't feed pure meat. They need to chew and they need some bone. Bone is what keeps the liquidy-poops at bay. Forget pumpkin and rice. Feed bone! By golly, they'll be all constipated in no time!

It's starting to appear that, like some other people on this list, I'm one hell of an expert on doo doo.

Von Marischal,

My observations concur with yours.  I started feeding chicken backs and necks and other whole pieces in 1999.  I switched two dogs to raw food, a 2 year old and a 5 1/2-6 year old.  Both had had bouts of loose stool and digestion problems.  The older one had serious food and environmental allergies.  They both almost immediately sitched to small well formed stools that were low odor.

If the raw feeding poop is left out in the sun it turns into chalky white powder that disintegrates in a few days in the sun.  I have never seen a whole piece of bone in the poop. 

In 1997 I had a party at my house and my totally bad boy Pug Chihuahua mix got into the garbage that had the barbecued chicken wings remains.  He crushed and ate the cooked bone.  I took him to the Emergency Clinic because he was in pain.  They recommended against surgery.  They told me to just keep walking him until he passed the bone they saw on the xrays.

Poor Pancho, he was crying and very unhappy but it worked.  There was some blood but he had crushed what he ate so there were no large pieces and he was all wild and happy in about two days.  I did give him Golden Seal capsules and Acidophilus pearls to soothe his digestive tract.

There were completely un-digested bone shards visible in his poop.

I am not selling any ideas here.  If my first Shepherd had not had the allergies that almost forced me to try raw I would never have done it.

Michele

I too inspect the daily deposits, its just good observation.

And yes the wild game has plenty of parasites, cook it.

My worst enemy is the rodents mine love to dig up and catch... had to treat one for tape worms.   And I''ve had to treat for the tick born diseases as well.  (mice, moles, and ground squirrels)