The Obama Youth - Civilian National Security Force - Page 7

sueincc, outstanding post!

You have echoed many of my sentiments very succinctly.

Terrific post, Sue!! Wait until Stone's new film, "W", opens in theaters this week. Our reputation for electing morons is going to skyrocket even higher.  This  youth camp spin is not even worth commenting about, it is so incredibly ridiculous it makes those who drink this glass of KoolAid look about as brillliant as Dubya.  

"Life is tough; it's tougher when your stupid".  John Wayne

A very friendly relationship indeed.  Charles Keating paid McCain $112,000 in campaign contributions in addition to flying him around on his private plane  & hosting luxury vacations in the Bahamas - (9 vacations, to be exact).  Then McCain tried to intervene on Keatings behalf with the financial regulators regarding the savings & loan scandal.  He attempted to use his position to apply innapropriate pressure on the financial regulators to back off their investigation.

From 1999 to 2002 Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of Woods Fund of Chicago, an organization with an outstanding reputation doing great work within  the community.    In 2001 Ayers contributed $200. to the Obama re-election to the Senate campaign. 

Implying there is some deep, dark connection between Obama and Ayers is straight out of the Carl Rove playbook of slime ball politics and it doesn't fly anymore.

6 degrees of separation. Shaking hands with Bob Dylan didn't make me a rock star.

my, my, i just skimmed and remembered why I don't spend much time here. 

Some of you have such tunnel vision you can't see shit can you?

Some of you actually seem to be able to hold a thought and rationalize in your own mind, but some of you??? might want to rethink your "critical thought" comments because it appears you have none yourself. 

Let's play six degrees of separation with William Ayers and John McCain. John  McCain lists Leonore Annenberg as one of his supporters. She controls the money doled out from the Annenberg Foundation. She has rubbed elbows with William Ayers. She worked as Chief Protocol of the United States under Reagan. Her husband was an ambassador to the UK under Nixon. She is a life long Republican. Is she palling around with a terrorist. Maybe John should give old Leonore the boot. She's the one funding William Ayers.

http://www.annenbergfoundation.org/biographies/biographies_show.htm?doc_id=670085   

I watched the debate last night and came away thinking niether candidate impressed me.

I also have been watching the president series on pbs.   

In my opinion it's a crap shoot, alway's has been.   Until we change the way candidate's are selected and how election's are run we will get nothing better.

At the heart of our problem's are our representative's in both house's.  More than just the president.   And the system in which they operate.    I loved hearing about the AIG executive's going on the resort vacation right after their bailout.

I am for reinstating public hanging's.

It is, in large measure, just as much a responsibility and fault of the American public that we find ourselves in the state we are in. Americans are, by and large, lazy and poorly educated. Most lack critical reasoning skills, and how many really can even begin to fathom the current economic crisis, what it will take to become energy dependent, what kind and depth of real associations any of the candidates did or did not have and with whom etc.,  and so on? Not many, and that is evidenced in part by the idiotic comments so many have made at this forum. 

There is nothing wrong with the way candidates are selected except that they are selected through the malaise of most Americans who could give a damn. Then, when it is down to the wire, many rise up and complain about what the choice is, when, in fact, you did not a damn thing in the early phases of the political process. To make it worse, so many writing here do not even write about the real issues. Instead you write pure crap about the candidates background, such as Obama is a "closet Muslim", his supposed ties to unsavory characters etc.

Let''s face it. Too many Americans would rather come home after work, sit down, eat dinner and watch the Simpsons' and drink beer. Most don't even read, and even more cannot read or write our language, let alone have any appreciation for other languages and cultures. 

There was a time when Americans did try hard to know the issues. There was a time when many Americans way of thinking was "how can I make things better"?, "What sacrifice can I make to make our country and indeed the world a better place", but, for too many today, those kinds of thoughts have not graced their brain matter for years, if ever because it is now mostly all about "what can I get out of this situation". We have lost our conscience, our pride and our ethical framework that made this country. Now that the world is changing so rapidly, there will be so many new challenges and we are sadly unprepared to meet them head on.

It is not a crap shoot, nor should it be. That is the lazy way out. Each of you who are Americans writing here have had years to make a difference in your society, in many venues, in many ways. You have had multiple opportunities to further your education in a variety of venues. How many of you could honestly say you did squat to make today different? I would venture to guess only a few.......

I watched the debate. McCain is a fine man in many respects, but he will not get my vote for two reasons. 1) he will stay the main course and that has continued failure all over it. Further, Americans are hurting and need help now. 2) he is too old and I would never want Palin as President, even though she has her winking down to a science.

One of Georges' greatest failures, and he failed miserably on so many fronts, was his penchant for surrounding himself with people without vision or so narrow a vision that no one could tell him anything except what he wanted to hear. I believe Obama will surround himself with people who will have the balls to stand up and say "Mr. President, I disagree with "so and so for this reason", and a more realistic picture of both problems and potential solutions can be had in this way. Should he die in office, and sadly, I fear someone would attempt to make history by assassinating him for being black. Senator Biden would be a capable President.

There is no conspiracy here to take away your rights. There is no secret society planning for global domination etc....but there sure are a lot of lazy people in this country who do nothing to make things different. That has us in the sad state we are in.

Your right Hodie about most of it, and well said.

But I disagree with the last two line's you typed, there are bigger thing's going on behind the scene's.

And our way of picking leader's and the system itself is in serious need of change.

We gotta quit meeting like this....  :)

Next time,  your place.

Anyway I'm outa time....  later Hodie.

Kudos, Hodie, an excellent and, sadly, so very true commentary.