USA BOI findings - Page 7

This has nothing to do about the 2007 Sieger Show or the "powerful" kennel in that club. Personally I could give a rats ass who holds the show or who is the "powerful" kennel. So anything I said was not jealousy. If someone gets where their going by hard work and honesty good for them. I've learned over the years that if there's rumble or whisper of scandal or wrong doing there's usually a good reason why it got started. I was at the regional meetings and there is proof. Also............Mr. Henkel didn't help his cause or popularity any when he requested an appeal and then didn't show up for it. Many people traveled hours and I had to miss half of an Ivan seminar I paid for to be at the meeting. He obviously doesn't think anyone elses time and money are worth much.

Gee, OG Boston is 4 hours away from the site in CT. And of course the BAC was steered to select the same location and initial co-host becuase the dealine for bids was never properly advertised on a USA webpage, just the SS host page. Politics politics. henkel skipped our regional meeting in 2005 when he was elected as RBW becuase his club was hosting a WDA club show that weekend, so his interest was just in having a vote on the BAC. Yep this is just what the USA doesn't need. A self serving cheater....

"chuck, why dont you go ask why the appeal was withdrawn... might be something simple. you seem very "bitter". its already been told, there were two shows, two different days, and 3 dogs each show, that is not cheating. if you have a problem with Karen Mac why dont you express it to her, why blow steam here? T Floyd is a great guy too!!" Will chuck (frenzi, tcmits) and friends walk up to T Floyd and accuse him to his face? How will he act, if he attends, at the Nationals? No, it is easier to post "fear biter" accusations on the internet.

khill, kougar, the end, dogford4, beam_me_up_scotty, timlc, and least of all lee I post as Dajkzo (it’s my dog’s rather unique name). I made my comments on this thread under my own login. And as far as confronting T Floyd, I had a face to face with him at the 2005 NE Regional so he knows exactly where I stand. So get your facts straight before you accuse me, you mindless imbecile. And if you choose to masquerade as Khill, first contact him direct and ask if it would be wise to continue this charade. I suspect the real K. Hill and T. & L. Cruiser would not be pleased with you using their names in this fashion. I was at the event in question and wrote a formal letter to the USA about the judge and the rest of the club leaving while I was still doing an AD. The trial secretary was no where to be found. I happened upon Henkel, T Floyd and the judge B. Prem coming out of a bar while I was finding my way back to the hotel. There was another credible witness to verify these facts. However it appears the New England Regional Director and other folks found more issues that could be pursued and I applaud their efforts to rid the USA of this type of trash. The USA has several thousand members. It only takes a few to ruin things for all the honest people. C. Wilkins

So since not all clubs have websites, make the host club send the results by whatever electronic means as is appropriate to the USA. Then someone at the USA puts it on their website. Sure would stop all the second guessing. After a trial is over, there isn't any record on the net that it ever happened. I think it is that way on purpose. Don't let the information out and no one knows what went on. D'man

Good point D'man. I'm in the software development industry and at this time, a simple web site is very affordable and easy to maintain. A simple page can be created at minimal cost using yahoo etc.. as the web host and DNS. However, the rules still need to be enforced. You can fake results on a web site faster than on paper. It will not stop the actions of someone who would circumvent the rules. Still it would get the information out in the open rather than wait months for it to appear in the USA publication.

Dajkzo, You are right and it would make a club officer responsible for reporting accurate information. But as I have said, I think there are reasons many trials go away from sight the same day they are held. D'Man

It looks as though everyone is on the same side they were on before this came up. Just like Democrats and Republicans everyone believes whatever their friends say or they WANT to believe, and decry anything however sensible from the other side. I would also be interested to know what proportion of sport/show people favor each view.

"I would also be interested to know what proportion of sport/show people favor each view." It is not a matter of favoring one view or another. It is a matter of whether the rules were brokern or not. It is up to the WDA and the USA to investiatate and decide and then to take diciplinary action if the evidence proves that the rules were broken. End of story. It remains to be seen if the clubs stand behind and enforce their own rules.

daijkzo, who also is frenzi, tcmits and C. Wilkins, You are confused, as normal. I am not sure who you are refering to as masquerading as Khill. Not sure what other KHill you are refering to.... and the phrase would be; contact "directly". File the complaint and again, stop trying to persecute/prosecute people on the internet, hiding behind multiple faces.