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Stonehaus

by Stonehaus on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

Sue, why is it necessary to go right on the attack to DRFN.He has not even commented of late and he post a very mild post by most means and you go after his leg. You are no worse than what you say he is when you act like this.

The subject:  I am sorry to hear about your mother being bit. I think everyone has a fear in the back of there head that their dog might accidentally bite someone at some time. We worry for the person if it's an accident and then of course our dog. There are nips, bites and then attacks. Very seldom do we hear of a dog just going for a person's neck unprovoked. Something is not right. Yes, we can all point fingers, but the point in the matter is that the dog bit a lady in the neck because she wanted to pet it. The neck. This is not something we should be blaming the victim about. Yea, she coulda woulda shoulda does no one anygood. Lesson learned for a few but it doesn't sound like that for the owner.
 

 


sueincc

by sueincc on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

Because I am sick and tired of people who are clueless suggesting a dog is forever a killer because he has bitten.  Do you have some knowledge that because the dog bit her neck he was somehow going for the jugular on purpose?  No, you don't.   For all you or any of us knows, the dog jumped & accidently caught her on the neck.  Why are so many so willing to see a dog destroyed without having the facts?


sueincc

by sueincc on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

Take this as a cautionary tale, use common sense, don't pet dogs at club or let your dog be pet at club.  Club is for work and training not socializing.


Stonehaus

by Stonehaus on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

Never mentioned destroyed.I even believe sil was asking for objective opinions unitl a few people started telling her the incident was her and her mothers fault.Yes some people mentioned PTS. But that is what she was asking for.was opinions. I don't believe the animal should be destroyed unless evaluated by someone who really can read dogs makes that decision. We all know there are not that  many people around to help there.For sure not at this club by the sound of things.


Silhouettes

by Silhouettes on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

The dog is 7 years old, at that age there is really not much you can do to change his ways.  Is it worth letting the dog live, if he gets ahold of a child, THE CHILD WILL DIE.  If that happened, and my mother didn't see to it that the dog was destroyed, not only does she have to live the rest of her life in fear, but she will know that she could have saved a child's life, and she didn't.  If it was the arm, fine.. that's one thing... but THE THROAT?  Think of a child, think of your child if you have any.  IS IT WORTH IT?

Honestly, do you think I should contact the regional director?


Silhouettes

by Silhouettes on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

When the dog has to be temperment tested (which he'll fail, no doubt) I will repost on here, that in the mind of a PROFESSIONAL.. the dog is dangerous.


Stonehaus

by Stonehaus on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

I was wrong, she wants the dog dead and wants people to back her up.  Sighh

I understand your anger.If it were my mother I would have shot the dog on the field.Does everyone feel better now?  


tigermouse

by tigermouse on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

i think suenic needs to chill.....have a glass of wine watch a movie relax blimey hun if there is another war i want you on my side,,lol

more tea anyone or perhaps some popcorn?

drfn well said.


Brittany

by Brittany on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

Sueinn,

Your inappropriate and very immature post are more breathe taking then my “suppose” ignorant post. I bet if this dog would have bitten your mother in the same area that it had bitten Silhouettes's mother you would have a different perception to the situation.

The laws doesn't care about your professional opinions on curing human aggression in dogs or your excuses as of the reasons why the dog attacked. Once a dog has bitten someone the owners are liable for the damages that the dog inflicted to the victim and the dog is then marked as “Dangerous dog”. The previous owners of this dog was smart enough to find a sucker to responsibly take this dog and they succeeded.

Here's copy of the Florida Statutes. I'm sure it's similar in other states as well.

“767.04 Dog owner's liability for damages to persons bitten.--The owner of any dog that bites any person while such person is on or in a public place, or lawfully on or in a private place, including the property of the owner of the dog, is liable for damages suffered by persons bitten, regardless of the former viciousness of the dog or the owners' knowledge of such viciousness. However, any negligence on the part of the person bitten that is a proximate cause of the biting incident reduces the liability of the owner of the dog by the percentage that the bitten person's negligence contributed to the biting incident. A person is lawfully upon private property of such owner within the meaning of this act when the person is on such property in the performance of any duty imposed upon him or her by the laws of this state or by the laws or postal regulations of the United States, or when the person is on such property upon invitation, expressed or implied, of the owner. However, the owner is not liable, except as to a person under the age of 6, or unless the damages are proximately caused by a negligent act or omission of the owner, if at the time of any such injury the owner had displayed in a prominent place on his or her premises a sign easily readable including the words "Bad Dog." The remedy provided by this section is in addition to and cumulative with any other remedy provided by statute or common law.

History.--s. 1, ch. 25109, 1949; s. 1, ch. 93-13; s. 1155, ch. 97-102.”

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767.11  Definitions.--As used in this act, unless the context clearly requires otherwise:

(1)  "Dangerous dog" means any dog that according to the records of the appropriate authority:

(a)  Has aggressively bitten, attacked, or endangered or has inflicted severe injury on a human being on public or private property;

(b)  Has more than once severely injured or killed a domestic animal while off the owner's property;

(c)  Has been used primarily or in part for the purpose of dog fighting or is a dog trained for dog fighting; or

(d)  Has, when unprovoked, chased or approached a person upon the streets, sidewalks, or any public grounds in a menacing fashion or apparent attitude of attack, provided that such actions are attested to in a sworn statement by one or more persons and dutifully investigated by the appropriate authority.

(2)  "Unprovoked" means that the victim who has been conducting himself or herself peacefully and lawfully has been bitten or chased in a menacing fashion or attacked by a dog.

(3)  "Severe injury" means any physical injury that results in broken bones, multiple bites, o


by Held on 24 April 2008 - 20:04

Hey Brittany let's see could it be that the dog you speak of was a dead dog and not a clear headed dog or perhapps it was as they say in the shutzhund world a prey monkey .or may be this dog really had no real aggression in it. just so you know dogs that are trained in shutzhund for the most part are trained in prey and bite work is done in prey this dog mostly is not good for anything else but sport. just remember shutzhund trainig is nothing more then a monkey routine and after being trained in it for two three years enen a real dog forget to show its real or the other side of itself.and mostly becomes a prey dog or sleeve happy dog.so there are many reason why a dog would bite.so you just can not say that it is a stable shutzhund dog so it can be patted this can send a confusing message to in experience people and they assume that can pet a shutzhund dog without knowing any thing about this dog.at the end of the day it does not matter what any one says if you know any thing about german shepherd dog,then you would know that it is a guard dog it has the guarding instinct in it and you just can not invade its space willy nilly,because a real one if you come across it , would let you know it is not acceptable.hope this makes sense.have a nice one.






 


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