Working line can work???? - Page 9

guys to tell you honestly, can't stand that black and golden color, The Grey Wolf Rules LOL;-)

cheers

Wow, people do have their own sense of reality don't they

Atarths do you belive in the bs you trying to sell? lol hahahahaaha OKI I got it you are being sarcastic lol hahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahaha

ATARTHS, wow you are a more of a dumb ass then I even thought possible. I mean that in the nicest of ways. You are a special person, with special needs and I hope you get help soon.  Your perception of reality is very distorted, may God, Budda, or what ever you believe in have mercy on your soul. If you need help I can offer a few pointers. For starters crawl out from under the rock that you have obviously been living under.

VonKohlenberg, By any chance, are you Australian?

 Quote: When the siegershow started in Germany the competitors were ALL one type or line, indeed up until recently

OK, I am with you. So what year did they start promoting these shitters ??

Quote: the VA dogs SHOWN at the worlds most important SHOW were one line ALL of them were proven dogs in work but they were all SHOWN the reason was not some abstruct sense of beauty, the reason was to pick up the best specimens and identify the gene pool for future generations.

Here is where I am losing you, proven in the work.......do you have some videos of these dogs getting their Sch titles ??? HGH titles ??

When picking up the best specimens, what was the criteria the judge was using ??? Money ???

Quote: During the last decades there have been changes in the breed , changes that came about from the pursue of excellence. Change brings about improvement, and this change we can see in the modern GSD as we know it today.

Again, they look like charicatures of a dog. It is an embarrassment to see them. The biggest change that I see is that the character of the dog has been washed out to satisfy some goofballs idea of Pretty.

Quote:  Working line dogs have not changed because there are people out there that simply do not care about improvement, this is why you don't see working line dogs winning anything at the siegershow.

Funny, they look pretty much the same to me as always. If there was one complaint I would have, it is that their thresholds are too high. If there was one suggestion to improve, I would like to see the HGH come back a bit more so that we could have the fine qualities that this brings with it.

Quote: Despite what a few WL fanatics say on this board the test that matters is the breeds biggest event the German Siegershow at the motherland of the breed.

You mean that is a test ??? Is it multiple choice ??? This is based on a persons OPINION, and does not really qualify for the word "test"

Quote:  And wether you guys like it or not the whole world gets blood from the Siegershow's gene pool, why ? because there lies true quality and showdogs ,that can work equally as good or even better than WL dogs

Are you kidding me ??? Am I really supposed to take your word for it that these dogs are in the same class as the working line dogs ??? You showed one dog. ONE dog, and that is what you are basing your arguement on ??

Quote: It is true that a very high percentage of the puppies sold go to private homes and used as pets , never finding there place for work. But this is because the SL GSD is such a beautiful dog everybody wants to have,

Are you on a boat ?? I think you are and the river is called de nile. They go to pet homes because they are shitters and should be put down. They are an abomination to the breed. They have no drive whatsoever, and the few rare cases that they do have something, their crippled bodies keep them from performing the task needed.

Quote: This does not take anything away from their working ability though. SL dogs that are given work to do , do it as good or better than WL. Beauty and harmony is what people through the years have been trying to produce , without sacrifizing working ability. And these qualities you can find only in SL .

WTF are you looking at ??? Are we looking at the same dogs ??? They are not pretty at all, they have dinasaur heads, and chicken necks and velociraptor backs and a frogs hind legs. How does this add up to beauty ???

Weirdo.

Nice job Jeff. You could have saved alot of time by just posting your last word.

That about sums it up

Uh, who else is not getting their blood from Seiger Show stock? I can't be the only one. Atarths, please point me to just "1" VA dog, from any of the last 30 years, that can outwork the 40th place WUSV or BSP dog of 08.

4pak, There was a SL dog that held his own in the 2005 WUSV. He was, if I recall correctly, VA in Canada that year, as well. Now, that being said, Atha-whatever needs to be informed that the dog was trained by a WL German, who also put all the titles on the dog. REAL titles, not titles at some Midnight Trial where no one was there. I have seen the dog work in a trial and it was clear to a blind man that everything on the field, all of it, was ALL the result of training and a strong bond with his handler/owner. The only other SL dog I know of to participate in the WUSV (other than the Argentine dogs in 98, who were beyond awful and appropriately at or near the bottom year after year) is Ivan's Brazilian-bred SL.