not being made to register litter - Page 1

can someone please explain to me how a breeder will use a top stud dog then takes it upon themselves not to register the litter and leave unspecting buyers with nothing but very expensive mongrels not only is this practice so unfair to the buyer but most of all to the dog i am pleased to say that only very few breeders do this but surely the kennel club should act to throw these people out the german shepherd world befor they ruin it and give all good decent breeders a bad name the reason i am writng this is hopefully the kennel club will act befor the sport is ruind altogether by nothing more than con men who hide behind there love of our gsd

YOGI - Is this an AMERICAN breeder? You can purchase a puppy with (full) papers, or limited registration (cannot be used for breeding) or no papers. Sometimes this also represents 3 different prices !! So if you purchased a puppy that was supposed to come with AKC registration and you don't get that - then you can file a complaint with the AKC. I am not in love with the AKC - we all know they could do a lot of things better, but they do seem concerned when breeders advertise AKC registered puppies, and then do not deliver same - (because, if nothing else - they lose the revenue !! ) Sometimes, they have difficulty completing the registration process if they need additional signatures from another owner - or whatever, but if you paid for papers, you should have them !! I

no i am british

no i am talking about a breeder from the uk who see fit not to give new owners there k,c forms yet i am told by the kennel club that there is nothing they can do how can this be right ??????

no i am talking about a breeder from the uk who see fit not to give new owners there k,c forms yet i am told by the kennel club that there is nothing they can do how can this be right ??????

There's always litigation, I suppose. Unless there is some reason you're not getting the proper papers that none of us knows about? If, after you have tried to work this out with the breeder, and you're not successufll, then you can take the low road and give out their name to everybody you know and ask them to tell everybody they know about your bad experience -- Then, you will most likely, never get your papers, only some small measure of revenge. Are they that ashamed of what they bred, that they don't want their name on the dogs ??? This is truly sad. If that happened around here someone would be taking out an advertisement in the paper and risking an additional liable suit just to make sure everybody knew what rats they were. Best you can do is have a "meaningful disucssion" with them and try to get them to explain what the issues are about completing the registration process -- and see what happens -- I believe you can catch more flies with honey -- but when you're the one being screwed -- it's not the least bit funny !

Something is not right somewhere,nobody is going to pay $1ooo to$15oo for a stud fee then sell the pups for top dollar with no Reg papers..something is missing in this scenairo

yes something is missing in this scenairo you guessed it the kennel club registation papers but like i said know offical party wants to stop this from happening so the breeder is free to con innocent people out of alot of money for nothing more than mongrels yes i agree why would the so called repurtable breeder use a top stud dog if he had no intentions of kc registering the pups something only he can answer

Our KC will not allow registration of a second litter from a dam within 12 months, unless permission is sought first. (And I have no idea what the criteria would be for allowing said registration; perhaps confirmation that it is not a back-to-back breeding?) If genuinely bred from the stated pedigree parents then they are hardly mongrels! Without papers they cannot be shown in breed classes, and their progeny cannot be registered, so they are just well bred pets; but without DNA, paperwork is just that.... PAPER. The ethics of this are certainly questionable, but it brings to mind "caveat emptor". If the buyer is misled into thinking that the pup comes WITH full papers then that is very wrong indeed. Or was it just ASSUMED that there would be paperwork? If we do limited registration on any pups, the KC requires that we make it clear to new owners exactly what effect that has, and how it can be amended, but there is nothing they can do about litters that are simply not registered with them... as far as they are concerned they simply don't exist. (And the next litter from that bitch CAN be registered...)

The Kennel Club in the UK will NOT get involved in such disputes, and rightly so, there must be potentially thousands of such issues each year, many very complex, and many where a verbal agreement was made for NO PAPERS to be given to the puppy buyer, for some reason, eg, overshot mouth, monorchid, etc. The issue here appears to be that yogi paid for a puppy, was assured the puppy was KC registered and the document would be sent on, and has NOT received the KC registration, then probably contacted the breeder who may have refused to send the KC papers on. This is a straight forward case for small claims court, or JUSTICE FOR DOGS, http://www.kc3.co.uk/profile/dogs/ Finloren Cottage * Weythel * Old Radnor * Powys * LD8 2RR Telephone and Fax: 01544 370213 A totally unique and exciting concept making this the only charity of its kind anywhere in the world. Providing a free complete advisory service to all dog owners anywhere and everywhere on any and every aspect of canine ownership --- legal, veterinary (traditional and alternative), nutritional, behavioural etc. We have a team of Consultants available to give advice on any subject and are always looking for dedicated, caring Professionals who would be willing to join us both in the UK and overseas. We seek to establish a professional network throughout the UK (particularly in the legal field) to whom we can refer members seeking help and advice. We also need people to join, to help fund what promises to be an organisation with a total commitment to dogs and their owners and the response is already most encouraging. If you have the compassion, will you join us? TRUSTEES: Ann Harpwood * Robert Killick * Monica Shuttleworth