TWO DAY SHOW - Page 5

Carol, couldnt agree more and its noticeably not just the Committee who are back peddling.

Heather says Lin sent invites to all in her address book yet I did not receive one yet must be in her address book as she has sent photo's to me before, this appears to be backed up by Xfactor (Karen of Tramella) as surely they must have had their dogs photographed before or at least their Kennel and email address should be widely known.

Also Penny (Mo Lakin) told us she just missed out on an advertising space and had put herself on the waiting list in the hope some advertiser cancelled, though Heather now reports there is still plenty of space.  I have nothing against Lin, indeed I was one ot those who championed her in the beginning arranging for her to be 'Inside' the ring at West Yorks Championship Show, THE FIRST Breed Club Show I believe to organise this for Lin, OUTSIDE of SCOTLAND (though I am prepared to stand corrected) I certainly know Terry Hannan was unaware of her prior to me arranging this, hence the reason Terry knew enough about her to go out of his way to get permission for Lin to be in the ring at Crufts. 

I just do not like underhandedness, never have, never will and as for you David Payne, I am surprised with all your democracy background that you come out championing something that on the surface appeared elitist, one can only assume that you were one of those original 'Exclusively Selected Advertisers'.

What ever happened to just telling the TRUTH? It's getting so some of us can't see the crap for the B***Sh**. If you wanted Exclusive Advertisers just say so, its your darn book so admit it, sad to say this breed is now riddled with too much arse licking with a scarsity of balls !!

Regards

Sue B

Couldnt agree more with Sue B. Its the what's beneath the surface that troubles me. Here we have, it seems, SoS GSD Club involved in a project which will eventually financially benefit just one individual. Never was any donation to Welfare mentioned until now. Is that just an over sight I wonder, or an attempt to plaicate us all and make everything all right?

I have nothing personal against Lin either, it just seems strange to me that a club would go to the extent of putting advertising payments through their books. Would they do this for every member who didn't want to be seen to have an income? I think not.

If this isnt by invite only, then why have the additional spaces not been offered to all via GSD press (magazine or breed notes) and why is Mo Lakin on a reserve list? Sorry, but there are too many unanswered questions for my liking.

Is this photographic record just one persons hobby which the advertisers are funding? or is it another attempt by unhappy people within the breed prefering to support anything that undermines GSDL and Breed Council YET again?

Zac

All,

I have to mention that I have seen the original email which was sent from Lin at Fardogart on the 24/11/2007, I can also see Sue B's email address on said email aswell as Mo Lakin and many many others.  My own email identified this particular email as junk mail and as a result the email itself went straight into my delete basket.  I was fortunate enough to have spoken to Lin the same day (on a seperate matter) and she mentioned the email, at which point I checked my junk mail folder and located it.  Perhaps there has been an issue with some other folks email addresses doing the same thing as mine. 

Lin very much wants to promote the breed through her Free of Charge photography, it is her love for the breed and passion for Photography which makes her photo's so good.

I am sure there are very good reasons why you have not heard much from Lin with regards to the current position and this is because it has only just been resolved.   I am sure she will update everyone in the not to distant future on the forthcoming book.

The fact remains that we all attend dog shows for our own enjoyment, we all take photo's whether inside or outside the ring or at the night time event during the 2 days.  The fact is that this enjoyment has been taken away by the rules which are being imposed unfairly in my opinion.  I took numerous photo's at the Irish 2 day last year for my own personal enjoyment, the ones which were good I emailed on to the kennel who owned the dog I may have snapped and I can say that I am proud that some of them have used them on their website.

I am aware that there was mention of the MOD imposing the rules due to securtiy breaches and this was confirmed by telephone to my mum when she enquired to one of the committee.  I find it difficult to understand why the MOD would impose such a rule given that in my personal experience I have and many of my Car Club friends been invited in to RAF Leuchars whilst the base was operational where we took photo's of our cars in very close proximity to the fighter jets etc...  Perhaps if this is the case the MOD can confirm by letter to the committee which can can be shared with the exhibitors/spectators.  I for one would love to continue my trend at the 2 day national and snap away at the dogs inside and outside the ring.

Mandy

Hundark Gsd's

I am not going to get into unnecessary debate over this exciting project, which only serves to undermine it.  However, I will not see inaccuracies going unanswered.  Sue, I cannot say why you are not in Lins address book.  To be honest, I don't have everyone in my address book, who has sent me an e-mail or from whom I have received one.  This project in its initial stages had very limited advertising space.  Since then it has developed and now has increased advertising space.  To be honest when this was initially discussed the enthusiasm of advertisers took over and all who had heard about it inundated Lin.  There was no deliberate intent in my opinion to exclude anyone and if you knew Lin as I do, you could be assured of that. 

Zac your comments are not helpful or constructive.  Trying to be smart about the taxman!!  I am pretty sure that Lin would have no intention of claiming costs from trips to all shows or abroad from this book but in my conversations with her these would merely be the cost involved in travelling to the British Sieger and possible the 2 day if they were involved next year and as she usually travels with us FOC she would have minimal costs i.e. possibly accommodation.  To me this is not unacceptable and to be honest, I have told her she should take more but she will not hear of it, despite my protestations.  So please, please do no tar Lin with the same brush as others that only want to make money!  So, given all the above I am pretty sure that tax man can rest easy for now  And just to makes things clear the South of Scotland GSD & ABTC are not involved in this project, sadly no Scottish club is.  Your comments re the League and BC publications are also without foundation as this entire project including the costing etc have been put before the Working Party for the British Sieger Event and approved and this includes the League and the BC!!!!  And, yes since inception people involved have been aware it was never a profit-making project and that if there were, it would go to welfare.  So, this is not a recent thing to placate people.  You only have to look at the figures, which I am sure Lin will gladly provide you with if you contact her to know that this project never was likely to make any profit.  As this project has developed it was fully intended that in the near future advertising of it would take place, via a number of outlets and hopefully still will.