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by Uglydog on 22 May 2008 - 16:05

Shawn..the question was phrased...."How will this effect YOU & YOUR DOGS"?

Price right now Has Nothing to do with Supply. Theres plenty of Oil.

The US Dollar is Declining, at all time lows, DUE to Financing an overseas Disaster  (Iraq) $600 Billion + to date, creating more inflation & a devalued currency.

Congress doesnt make loans.

The Fed Reserve (A Private Banking cartel, never audited)  loans money to our banks, & at the behest of the Fed-home loans were encouraged to the Banks, BY the Fed...Arm loans especially, remember?

The FED Creates Bubbles, Not the Congress. The President sets a Budget & congress approves or vetoes it.

Subprime Loans are only 15% of the bad loans out there, Shawn.  It is the struggling economy, outsourcing & Inflation that is causing people to not afford their payments & unwilling banks to correct the problem & freezing or restructuring Mortgage Notes..


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 22 May 2008 - 17:05

I dont think we will ever pay that much for gas because we can't.    If it goes that high only the elite will be driving along with the goverment officials and the military.  The rest of us will just have to take what we are given by the powers that be.

The goods that we can't live without will be priced out of the range of the average person and there will be a new order of class in this country.   You'll be on one side or the other of the line.  

How will it effect us??    In every possible way thats how.  I will vote against every incumbent in office now.  If you want change then change it all from the ground up.  Just remember, we've waited too long and change is gonna take time.   We will suffer the price of our mistake's.

Drill all the holes you like, oil is not renewable and we will consume the very last drop.  I believe there will be war over resources of all kinds in the near future.

Have a lovely fxxxing day,

Me.


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 22 May 2008 - 17:05

I know I think twice before I turn the ignition key these days. When my old AWD Aerostar is tuned up, it gets about 22 mpg highway. I don't know of any other vehicle I could afford that will pull a dog trailer and carry 4 #500 crates + all my junk, suitcases etc., so I will just try to keep ole-Red going for as long as possible, plan trips to be as efficient as possible and stay home a lot more than I otherwise might.

I'm with varga: DRILL in Alaska, build more refineries. We have enough oil on US soil to keep us going a LONG time, if the tree-huggers would lighten up and let us reduce our dependence on foreign oil!  I really don't think Hillary or Obama can/would do a damend thing about our oil prices, but am hoping McCain will choose an economic genius for VP. Dubya is a lame duck at this point. He might be able to do something tomake the party look good this fall, but I wouldn't expect that to last much longer than election day.

SS


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 22 May 2008 - 17:05

Shelley,

I think your wrong about Alaska, and how much oil is on American soil.   And I think your wrong about how long it will be before things get really bad.

Politics are not going to make it go away and I would rather have wilderness than highways overflowing with cars, tree hugger or not. 

Our country had a booming rail system at one time, that might be a good place to start.   Today everything you buy is moved on a truck, makes no sense.

Our system makes no sense either, we elect the one with the most money and the most baggage.   We let others decide for us instead of using our own voices.   We allow power to reign over the law of the land.

Ahh,

SSDD.


AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 22 May 2008 - 18:05

I've talked to a lot of people who've noticed a significant decline in people spending big money on not only dogs but everything from a new car, a vacation or even taking your family out to dinner.

I think all of us have to make a choice now....drive to a sporting event or save the money on gas to drive back n forth to work for the next week?? Import another dog or buy a smaller car that's more fuel efficient??

I never used to even think about how far I'd have to drive to get to where I needed or wanted to go or how much money in gas it'd cost me but when the only vehicle's in your house are both V8's it's kinda tough not to think about it when you just watch the fuel needle quickly go to empty before you reach the first exit on the highway.

There's a lot of things killing our economy right now and I fear it's gonna be a long time before we are on a more stable footing economically.  If you look around the shopping centers you'll probably notice they're not as full as they used to be.  My mom works in a popular resturaunt in our area and you used to have to wait over an hour for a table....not any more, you get a seat right away.  It's hurting everyone and everything right now; times are just tight.


blueshep

by blueshep on 22 May 2008 - 19:05

I'm in the contracting business  and I have 4, f-150  trucks that go out everyday.  The fuel bill has went out of site,  then everything you buy that is petrolium based has went sky high. These idiots in congress better get their head out of there ass or they will shut this machine down, and there not smart enough to figure out how to start it up again. I can't believe anybody would be importing dogs due to the Euro and week Dollar.I bought my last dog in the states because of that reason. Hope somebody steps up to the plate soon and says enough is enough.

I agree with to moons

ssdd


by s_vargas on 22 May 2008 - 20:05

Well said Shelley & Blueshep....

I too work for a construction company.  We are booming.  My wife and I make less than $85,000 a year.  I own my house, a new Suburban with the big V8, commute 45 miles one way to work and I own 2 GSD's with 2 Kids also.  I am doing just fine.  So is most other people I know.  It is very few people that are truly hurting.  I dont have any sympathy because someone cant travel hundreds of miles to show or trial, or now they cant import a dog because the cost is too high.  We live in an expensive society.  I live in one of if not the most expensive state to live in (CA).  My dog training and dogs have not suffered one bit. 

Uglydog...I am not even going to get into it with you over this overseas war. 

As far as the subprime loans, that was just an example.  Dont try and tell me that just because Congress or the Govt for that matter cant influence these banks to give homeloans.  Because that is exactly what happened.  Your right they dont make the loans, they can jus do away with tax breaks and other benefits to these banks. 

Two Moons...Im not saying we needmore highways.  But you have to decide what is more important the spotted owl or the 3 eyed Moose or you being able to afford Gas. And dont forget Oil is wha runs this country.  I for one can do with a lot less trees and owls and moose and whatever other animal MAY be affected by the US drilling for its own Oil


by Uglydog on 22 May 2008 - 20:05

Its coming your way Vargas, Just wait.

$4 a gallon gas will be the good ole days.   A military draft is coming after the election, more Bank Closings, more Foreclosures (hasnt even started yet), a broader war in the Middle East for Israel, the US dollar will continue deteriorating & home prices in all states will correct another 20-50%.

The FED & Greenspan encouraged ARM LOANS, From the Banks.  

Greenspan also Praised the "High efficiency credit scoring models being implemented" which was ripe for Fraud. With that, came No DOc loans, stated income loans & massive fraud.  Had Nothing to do with Tax Breaks.

The Mortgage Business got in business with Wall Street. This started when the founder of Subprime & a Billionaire Holocaust Survivor, named Roland Arnall of Ameriquest. sold his soul & destroyed an entire industry. He died recently after being appointed Bushs' Ambassador to the Netherlands.

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-arnall18mar18,1,2989564.story

Oil Supply isnt the issue.

Gas refining isnt the issue. 

A DECLINING DOLLAR IS THE Issue. Our US dollars is worth is down 50% since Bush took office.


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 22 May 2008 - 20:05

I can't haul 4 crates in a Toyota Prius, let alone pull a dog trailer. If I can't take at least 4 dogs, it isn't worth going in my book. When was the last time you hiked through the Alaskan wilderness? Throw bales of hay and dead cattle out of helicopters for the polar bears and caribou for the couple of years it takes to bury another pipeline.

Dogs ARE my work. Transporting them safely to training and events is part of the job. No sub-compact in my immediate future. If it doesn't hold a few crates, equipment, suitcases, and pull a trailer, I have little use for it. Guess I'll just replace the plugs and wires, try to get as much done on each trip as possible.

SS


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 22 May 2008 - 20:05

Diesel alone is killing me for transportation to and from race tracks. I always traveled alone. I now have to travel with a loaded trailer every track entry I run outta state and even just to Philly, I have to charge people 575.00 a head just to cover truck/trailer maintenance and diesel. Full loads are killing my Trucks and Trailers. Even my price is 100.00 cheaper concidering what the full time haulers are asking for traveling outta state. Just 4 years ago I was charging 250.00 - 275.00. It's at the point now, if I can't find heads to full my trailer to go outta state, I have to scratch my horse in a race I'm not 100% sure they can hit the board.

If I can hang in there and pay off my Vet Equipment in the next year or two ... I can quit the Race Tracks and have a practice off my farm.. God willing.

 

 






 


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