$12-$15 Per gallon Gas predicted. How will it effect you? - Page 5

History teaches one thing.  When folks are starving to death and the govt doesn't turn in its tracks and take strong corrective actions, folks will riot and go after the govt and those in power.  This happened in 1776 and 1906 and would've happened again except FDR took immediate action to get folks working again.  I have one acquaintance that fears that the govt will either institute or allow another or more 9-11 type attack(s) if they start losing control.  The govt have built up the big anti-drug and anti-terrorist machinery which includes the militarization of the police and taking central command over the national guard, and how else would they have been allowed to do this except by instituting these problems in the first place.  He thinks that there may not be a prezidential election this Nov. and instead another new war against Iran which could easly take the price of gas to 12-15 or even$20 a gallon.  This is one of the worst case scenarios possible and I hope this doesn't come to pass.  But you can bet we are all probably going to be in for a rough time the next few years.

Preston- I don't think that's paranoid at all, either. I agree that our government will allow either natural disasters to escalate out of hand, or allow further 'attacks', as instruments to keep the populace in line, should the people begin to act on regaining control of our economy. Sad, isn't it, that the whole country can be brought to the verge of collapse while most folks are busy watching American Idol. jh

I had to purchase a second car - first time I ever considered how many miles per gallon it could get.  I have a 2004 Merc Moutaineer which I love and is great for the dogs, but I drive 210 miles round trip to work 3x per week.  The gas was killing me, so now I have a Ford Fusion which is averaging 28.7 mpg.  (Disappointed I could not buy the mustang 8 cyl).  The truck is now used for taking the dogs to training or competing only.   My company relocated in Feb 2007.  I used to be a 15 minute drive away and now it takes about 2 1/2 hours each way.  If the prices go up much higher, I will have to consider leaving my company of 19 years as this additional cost plus the long commute will not be worth it.

So far the rising cost of gas has not changed my training or competing time.  I will try to cut back in other areas, as for me training and working my dogs is the one thing that I do for myself and will  not give it up.

"Volatility has nothing to do with the fundamentals. It has nothing to do with world demand," he said, stressing that a dropping dollar was driving prices higher.

"The price was at 130 dollars and today is at 135, so it's really a crazy market," he said. El-Badri, OPEC's secretary general, is on a week-long working visit to the two OPEC member states in Latin America, Venezuela and Ecuador. ...

4Pack...I agree with you in principle.   The reality is, are you ready to kill to protect yourself & defend your 2nd amendment rights?  Once government goons come en masse, doing house to house searches, youre outnumbered & fighting a losing battle. You will lose.   

Heres video from the NRA,  of Blackwater Goons punching an 82 yr old Grandma in the face to strip her of her only protection during Katrina, her 38 special handgun.   This is what it will look like.   And in the past, for having insulted you & generally being difficult, I apologize.   I like your monitor, by the way..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

"The reality is, are you ready to kill to protect yourself & defend your 2nd amendment rights? Once government goons come en masse, doing house to house searches, youre outnumbered & fighting a losing battle. You will lose."

Funny you say that, because I think of it like this. There are too many honest Americans who support and defend the US Constitution in it's entirety wether buy oath or by honest tradition. It is clear, who the "criminals" are relating to your question. If you don't think there are Americans that will die for Freedom and Liberty as intended in that "goddamn piece of paper" ... you are sadly mistaken. And for the ones who do stand true to the Constitution defending the last amendment before Liberty's demise and die... well, they are the true Hero's in the Fathers eyes. Once it hits home, blood is thicker than water. I personally don't think the real "criminals" have a chance once the ball starts rolling. Our Government enities didn't make America Home of the Brave, "we the people" do. "we the people" are the last defenders of this Republic for which it stands, the 2nd amendment will not lose.

Then of course this pandemic they plan to use will kill us easy and quick... either way we die ... they don't and will NEVER stand for what this flag represents in the hearts of who they killed. That's how I look at it. I wonder what the new flag will look like. **PUKE**

I don't usually participate in political debate on a dog board. However, anyone here who doesn't understand what a horrible role George Bush's incompetent 2 terms in office have done to this country just isn't getting it.   

"The reality is, are you ready to kill to protect yourself & defend your 2nd amendment rights? Once government goons come en masse, doing house to house searches, youre outnumbered & fighting a losing battle. You will lose."

I'm not fooling myself, unless my neighbors deffend themselves and help me, themselves and protect their own rights, I probably would loose. But like I said, it's die now or die slowly later. I'd rather go out with my rights than standing in some bread line watching my kid starve and everything around me crumble. They will have to take my freedoms, I wont hand it over willingly. So yes I am willing to kill. I always have been.

Some of the responses are surprising & give me a little optimism. 

Ben Franklin said .." We must hang together, or we will hang separately"

Here is a video on martial law-US Marines did urban exercises in downtown Toledo & Colorado earlier this month.

Here is also an item list from a Bosnian Serb survivor of the 100 items wish list,  in a time of civil war & unrest.

Please save these & favorite them. You might need them both in a few years, if not sooner.  I Hope to GOD Im wrong.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/items_disappearfirst.htm

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6015

What will we do?

What will we do.   You don't have very many choice's here, I see rants and comments going off in every direction.  I see part of the problem, some of us live in a bubble and dont have a clue.  Others are extreme and make no sense.

We have an option right now, elections are coming.  Start by writing letters and expressing your concerns to your representatives and elected officials.   Then explain to them that they have had their chance and you are voting them out of office in favor of new face's.  Write to the politition of your choice and explain to them what you expect in return for your vote.   Forget the party lines and loyalties of the past, they have not served you and its time to break away from the flock.  

If there was ever a time to get involved its now, raise your voice and be heard.  Write that letter, send that e-mail, talk to your friends and nieghbors about it.   Sadly none of them will agree with you but try anyway.   Don't forget the power you have in the dollars you spend.  Boycott those who harm us, and let them know what and why your doing it.   Any shift in our spending habits sends shivers up the backs of those who profit from our labors.   We the people make it happen, we generate the money, we feed the machine.   Its a way to take back control of our country without violence.   We'd lose that battle and anyone who doesn't know that is a fool.    Its time we put aside our difference's and prejudice's and unite as Americans with the single goal of changing our system.   No more lobbiest's, no more special interest's, no more pork barrel, no more waste.  Enforce the laws against monopolies, and price gouging, price fixing and fraud.   Start at the top with these big companies who have sold us out and put people in prison, tax their ass's and take back whats been taken from us in the past.

Sorry, I'm starting to rant now.     Just do something and stop whinning, I will.

Brent.

2 Moons... I agree in large part.   People must turn OFF their TVS & get involved. Write & Discuss.

Vote out all incumbents. End the war, Close the border. Balance the budget. Keep US jobs here. Offer incentives for doing so. Oil alternatives. End Lobbies, Term limits for Congress critters. Enforce the laws but protect the innocent.  No Patriot Act. No Police State.

...my gut is this. Nothing will change via the ballot box, its too late. 

If you dont think we cant win, youre wrong.  You dont have to "Win",  You need only to Survive.  Occupation is a bitch.

The IRA defeated the Brits with only 4000 members & maybe 8000 associates.  Granted, they fought them for 800 years,  but they did shame them back to Londonistan with their tails between their legs & killed 9xs the number of Occupying troops. 

I dont encourage any violence  but Im a realist as to where we are.  I think its almost inevitable at this point in the near future, next few years if not sooner. Pains me to even write about it.