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MVF

by MVF on 03 September 2008 - 02:09

http://www.slate.com/id/2199140/

 

Not this this is going to change anyone's mind, and perhaps it should not, anyway.

But if you are on the margin, and love canines, consider this.


Kalibeck

by Kalibeck on 03 September 2008 - 02:09

I had heard that she (Palin) was trying to offer bounties for wolf pelts. Sad state of affairs. jh


AKGeorgias mom

by AKGeorgias mom on 03 September 2008 - 02:09

Politics aside, most people don't understand that many rural Alaskans live a subsistence life-style - they eat what they grow, hunt or gather.  If they aren't able to get enough game (i.e. moose or caribou) it can make the difference of not having enough food for the winter.  Most villages get supplies in by barge in the summer or by plane year round so they can't always just run to the store for food.

Below is a link to facts from the state department responsible for predator control.

There was another thread about this  recently- last year wolves actually were stalking people in Anchorage along the trail system.  They killed several pet dogs over the course of the winter.

http://www.wildlife.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wolf.control

Opal (who actually lives in Alaska and was nearly charged by a bull moose last night at training)


by alaman on 03 September 2008 - 03:09

Some people who know nothing about a subject or situation sure like to spout off anyway. Already had the wolf shooting discussion started by an anti-hunter. This is an Alaska matter


animules

by animules on 03 September 2008 - 03:09

Alaska should be allowed to control their preditor population as needed,  They don't need our help or advice with that.  If somebody wants to save a wolf, go adopt one and take it home with you,


GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 03 September 2008 - 04:09

animules don't you have to have a permit to get a wolf? I don't think you can just take them home. At least a pure wolf.


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 03 September 2008 - 04:09

I am not impressed with the politic's so we will leave that out..(Palin connection).

I wonder why the state would offer a bounty that is half of what a wolf pelt would bring on the open market. 

Second I don't totally trust the gov. site fact's and figure's.    Naturally the predator weed's out the sick and injured I don't believe they are so successful as to push a species to such small dangerous number's but I guess it's possible in small area's.   There is very little data that show's wolve's attacking man.    I am sure they are capable of it and maybe where human's have encroached further and further into previously wild place's there is more contact between animal and man.

Hell Coyote's kill dog's around here when they get the chance.   I really don't have a problem with pest control but I don't think it's sporting to hunt them down like vermin from a plane.  Like I said the pelt alone should be motivation for hunter's to increase the harvesting of wolve's.   Then the local's who do hunt would have cash in hand. 

GSDguy, 

You can buy a pure wolf, and you can buy a hybred, some require permit's and other's don't allow it at all.  Depend's on where you live.

Alaska can do what it want's on state ground, but not on federal land's. 


Brittany

by Brittany on 03 September 2008 - 04:09

animules, You've got to be kidding me. Wolves don't make good pets and you're avocating people to rescue wolves and taking them home.

Wolves are gorgeous creatures and most of you people are so cold for supporting this kind of act. I sure hope that you keep a close look at your sable dog at all times when you visit Alaska and hope that somone don't mistaken your dog for a gray wolf!


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 03 September 2008 - 04:09

Brittany,

You can't make a pet out of a wolf,  and hybred's are unpredicable at best.   I've had a hybred  and it's a lot of responcability.

Someone turned 5 or 6 loose here not long ago and they have all been shot but maybe one or two...  we saw one not long ago and it was starving, scared.    Make's me angry.

Brent.


AKGeorgias mom

by AKGeorgias mom on 03 September 2008 - 05:09

Two Moons - Anchorage is the largest city (about half the state's population), and over the winter there was a small pack of wolves stalking people and dogs on the trail about 3-4 miles from my house.  This was within a mile of a high school.  In the 10 years I've lived here this is the first time that's happened. 

I'm personally conflicted about the shooting of wolves, and I know fish and game is doing other things as well.  The conditions of the game animals varies so much throughout the state that it's hard for me to state with any accuracy what's going on in the areas where they are doing predator control.  For rural people, the poor salmon runs have already impacted their livelihoods so any reduction in other game would hit really hard.

Another part of the problem is that there are conflicting areas of responsibility between state, federal and local agencies.  For example in Anchorage there were several bear attacks in a municipal park this summer.  The state biologists have been making recommendations for years, but have no enforcement ability on municipal land, which just happens to adjoin a  state park & national forest.  Of course the bears just go where ever they want to! 

As governor Palin did remove some appointees to the board of fish and game that were unqualified and replaced them with people that had direct knowledge (gasp!).  To be fair much of her work has been to undo what the previous governor messed up, which was quite a lot.

Opal






 


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