How can I find out if these dogs are priced right? Opinions please. - Page 9

I'll go buy some B and C elbow dogs from Europe who are really pretty and make a deal with those of you who are so interested.   Veronica

If you can get them for $1,200, and that's all that's wrong with them, I'll take all you can find. PM me.

Who the heck are you to try to set that price? - cs

it's not "who" it's the market as a whole that determines the range. this is the basis of capitalism - competitive pricing.  when you shop around and see what others are selling their product for, in this case dogs of a certain age, training & breeding quality, you get an idea of what is 'reasonable' to pay.  most people feel comfortable paying the median price, which is learned via market research;  while other prefer to pay less and still others are just fine paying more.  in this  thread i've gleaned the range of $1,200 to 12,000 for a well structured, good color untitled bh trained young adult male, with a reasonable price in the neighborhood of $3000 to $5000 - though i'm not sure if this means breeding quality or neutered but i think non-breeding.

but there is no doubt a seller is absolutely free to set any price they wish.  also there is not nor should there be a cap set. and buyers are free and encouraged to evaluate the price quoted them to determine if they believe it to be fair or reasonable.  no one is "setting" prices meaning restricting sellers to a pre-set range, but asking and shopping around to get an idea of what others are selling a similar product for is simply they best way to interact with a free market.  sorry that the process of comparing prices bothers you but along with being free to set ones prices exactly where desired goes the right to compare those prices with the rest of the market.  this is certainly a skill i consider necessary to being good consumer.

I PM'd you Christopher.  Veronica

I have no beef with a person checking prices. IMO, a person would be negligent not to when dealing with large sums of money. My beef comes in when you and others try to frame the seller as dishonest. You called into question the sellers "fairness". If a seller is not fair that makes him unfair. unfair >adjective not based on or showing fairness; unjust.

How is it unjust to sell your property for the price you want?

 i never said the seller was unfair. i said shopping around you find a fair price based on competitive pricing to be below what these dogs are priced at.  you are jumping to conclusion inferring something i never said.  i was using fair price to  mean average market price - not too high or not too low - i suppose there is a better word but "fair price" is a commonly used phrase in commerce; which speaks about the market not the sellers moral convictions.

i know many people who have overprice their products - meaning priced it well above the going market value - because they felt it was not worth it to them to part with the product for anything less  i.e. they priced their product according to their own personal value and ignored the value the market placed on it.   i do not 'judge' them as amoral or immoral in anyway because the price is theirs to choose and the buyer's to accept or reject as they see fit.

the  thread is about "right price" and that was what i was speaking to and i am sorry you read into my post a moral assumption about this seller.  i know nothing about the seller or these dogs and was strictly speaking to the going price of dogs of a similar caliber (based on info given on the site).  again i think it is a very good thread and a lot of good info to be gleaned to help a buyer negotiate an acceptable and informed exchange.

Christoper, you disagree with justcurious using the term "unfair". In the larger context, the term applies.

Those two Misty Ridge dogs are sentient beings bred for a purpose by humans. One particularly greedy human in the equation is causing them to subsist for the foreseeable future in a cold kennel run, apparently regarded as nothing more than overpriced merchandise. If that's not unfair, what is?



 

Hey Christopher,

You are a gentleman, a credit to the German Shepherd breed, and a credit to this messageboard. It's unfortunate more people here do not appreciate the leadership the breeder-trainer-kennel owner provides to this community.

1. She is the only breeder in the U.S. to have exported a German Shepherd to Germany.
2. She has sold dogs in 49 of 50 states, plus Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Argentina, Guam, and more.
3. She is truly a women of vision, posessing a very high degee of personal integrity.
4. She breeds to German Standards, rather than to non-exiting American standards.
5. She is a member of the Schutzhund III club, whose membership is restricted only to those individuals who start with an untitled dog and train it to the Schutzhund III level. Very few individuals in the US are members of this club.
6. She trained the best working dog that ever lived, Lewis von Maletesta, SchH 3, FH2, IP 3
7. Many of the dogs bred by her have completed successfully in AKC as well. In fact, many have earned the title Dog of the Year.
    

You are lucky to have her in this breed. So just remember there are two sides to every story.