HELP with AKC - Page 2

wuzzup I am thinking (hoping) she may have this info because she has a contract of sort staing she would have AKC papers before a year was up. The year should have been up by Aug. 2008 or at the latest when the pup was sold at 8 weeks making it Oct. 2008.

YR wasn't  there something about the AKC letting people rename their dogs (taking off kennel names) and also changing the status from Limited Papers to Full Papers? I thought people were in a uproar over the later and the only solution was to register the whole litter yourself. I agree with the DNA but would go the court route only has a last ditch effort. Mostly because even if you get judgement for you, you have the responsibility to collect what is given to you, not the court. So seems your in the same boat as you started. I think there is something you can file but it is a pita.

Trailrider I hope you are right! It just seems to me if a person sets out to screw you over they will not be so forthcoming with any info for you to screw them back.Some contracts can be loosely written and someone not familiar with registration rules is an easy target for a scam.

Try contacting the breeder if she blows you off again contact the stud owner. H is a LEO maybe he can get something done to help you

3crzygsds, so far we know that the sire was not registered with the A.K.C. when this litter was born, but he is now registered with the A.K.C.. But I have read nothing here that assures me that the dam is A.K.C. registered.

Was the litter produced with the full knowledge of the current sire's owner? We don't know from what is written here. Can it be proven that this is the sire who was used? Yes, through the submission of DNA samples from both the sire and your bitch puppy. The DNA sample from the dam may not be needed if she is already registered with the A.K.C., but in your unique case I can't say. The A.K.C. may demand a DNA submission by the dam's owner in light of what has happened.

I think it is absolutely possible to register this bitch puppy with the A.K.C. provided that both the sire and the dam are A.K.C. registered. It sounds as if the sire is foreign-born, and since he is now A.K.C.-registered, a sample of his DNA was provided.

Following the statements by Yellow Rose; the owner of the sire and the owner of the dam must both sign the litter registration application before any of the individual puppies can be registered. I know that the A.K.C. charges a higher fee for a late registration in order to push breeders to complete the paperwork in a timely manner.

Wow, this is something else, and I think it will easily take as long as twelve (12) weeks-at minimum, to straighten out this mess. I continue the advice from Two Moons' previous post-first go to the breeder and ask what she plans to do, and when she plans to do it. I would give her the first chance to mend her error here. But, I also asvide you to contact Case Management at the A.K.C. and ask them in a hypothetical way; how could this case be handled? This will let you know if the breeder is being truthful as to her progress. In closing, do let us know what happened.

Good Luck, and Best Regards,

Bob-O

wuzzup yeah your right on if people set out with the intentions of screwing you over. For her sake I just hope it took longer to get the stud AKC registered than was originally planned. Hope the OP keeps us posted on the outcome...

Wow thanks everyone great advise.

I did ask for the DAMS AKC # but got no response she does have a SCH1 and BH but that does not mean she is AKC registered.  Also someone made a great point I have no way to know that the stud she said is her father is.  She has told so many tales who knows what is what.

At the end of the day I was  lied to and a fraud was committed.  Never would have paid what I did for a dog with no papers.

I have asked the breeder over and over.  Only did she admit about the mess when I figured it out after an investigation basically googling (lol).  The Detective from the Sheriff's dept that recently registered the dog has been so bitter over this event he would not do anything for anyone associated with this breeder.  Although he is starting to come around. 

The last I heard from her was October and this is the response below....I have been in contact with the AKC there is NO claim as she stated below and I will be filing a dispute with the AKC.  The crazy thing is this breeder will get on this very website and talk sheet which is complete insanity to me.  HELLOOO people in glass houses should not throw stones lol!

Please give me your feed back on her email below.

Due to legal protocol and AKC's obligations, we were forced to wait until a certain date to give Daniela Huppe a chance to re-appeal the case (which she promised both AKC and SV she would be re-appealing, but didn't.)

Somewhere between what she says the importer says is the truth,  she was given the stud for 1 breeding according to the importer than the dog was to be delivered to the Detective. WHO has a bill of sale and registered the dog only 2 months ago.  Again all of which I found on my own none threw breeder. 

I have a lawyer he sent letters to her and her lawyer and they asked for patience! It has run out. 

ENOUGH SAID   ONE WORD TELLS IT ALL   D.H. ,SHOULD HAVE KNOWN...UNBELIEVABLE.   I WILL PM YOU PRIVATELY.

   RESEARCH OUR DATABASE FOR HER NAME AND READ OTHER THREADS.........

SHE IS AS SLICK AS THEY COME..SHE DID THE SAME THING TO TAMMY JO LAST YEAR BUT WE DIDNT BUY THE DOG.. WE HAD TO DO OUR OWN RESEARCH AS TO WHO THE DOG EVEN WAS AND WHO OWNED IT AND IT HAD NO PAPERWORK TO PROVE HIPS, ETC,,.BUT ../////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

SITAS MOM:  I HOPE YOU ARE READING THIS....WHAT DID I TELL YOU EARLIER THIS DAY??????

DH is very bad news and the information posted here about Voxi is not factual.

DH has ripped off Kim of Von Hayden Sheps more than Kim can EVER describe.   Daniela Huppe continues to call AKC with  lies about this matter spreading lies wherever people will listen to her... even after Kim was awarded a court order proving her ownership and more on this and other dogs,   Kim continues to have difficulty obtaining rightful paperwork on the resulting puppies produced due to her association with Daniela on these dogs.

Check this out...
Here's another link which describes the fraud DH has done to me as well...

http://www.schraderhausk9.com/gesi%20story_purchased%20from%20Daniela%20Huppe%20_.htm

SHE IS BAD NEWS...Definately Buyer Beware