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Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 26 January 2009 - 20:01

Overall I think that they moved ok, considering their build and being amateurs.  Believe me, I've seen a lot worse


Wow. Marcia, I have to say this. If that's what you think, then YOU are part of the problem!

I usually don't come on this strong, but I am sick of tired of seeing GSD's thatr move like they are crippled, then hearing people deny reality and say, "he moves just fine"!  "He's SUPPOSED to move like that!"

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 26 January 2009 - 20:01

Thats just wrong.
I thought maybe it was just the hard surface but no.

wuzzup

by wuzzup on 26 January 2009 - 20:01

I have seen dogs ran over by cars that walk better then that.The judges most own the kennels that breed them.We need new judges.

by mkennels on 26 January 2009 - 20:01

those are some sad dogs, most of them I don't see how they can move, I have seen some american lines just like that and when I seen them in person I was like how in the world do they walk but the judge don't care about walking it is their side gait they are looking at, so sad if you ask me

Pharaoh

by Pharaoh on 26 January 2009 - 20:01

Well Marcia, peace and love to you too!

These dogs are not breed standard unless they are a new breed.  They are nearly crippled and I was shocked to see the UK shepherds being flushed down the same toilet that many of the American showlines have gone down.

Look at what has happened to the Collie when someone decided that really narrow pinheads were more elegant.  Too bad if the dogs brain doesn't fit in it's skull.  Some of the same thinking is destroying the Doberman ruining their strong temperaments.  Very, very sad......animal cruelty really......

I am no big fan of the BBC and their endless propaganda.  I don't need the BBC to know what the truth is in this instance.  We in the USA have seen a very similar, sad and horrifying process.  These dogs are truly "fashion victims".

Thank God there are working line breeders producing dogs with functional anatomies.

What's next, will we start intentionally breeding humans with hunch backs knock knees, club feet and microcephaly for fashion and "beauty"?

Michele and Pharaoh



by mccia on 26 January 2009 - 21:01

Hi Sunsilver, You got me twisted.  I supposed that you could say that I'm part of the problem if I in fact bred my dogs with those same conformation extremes to run around a ring.  On the contrary I am quite selective the few times (once) I bred my working dogs.  If you reread my whole comment, take in mind that I have seen 2 or 3 dog shows and that is what I see of those dogs and of those in public.  Because I wrote, "Overall I think they moved ok, considering their build and being amateurs.", did not in any advocate what I saw.  If owners would spay and neuter their dogs that contributed to poor conformation, so many problems would be alleviated.  Most people live through their pets and think they are just fine and want to see more of them in their offspring.  It is difficult for most people to be self-critical.  The question came up does anyone think that the dogs move well?  I responded.  Most times animals don't hurt when they move, the same as people when they are knocked-kneed, pigeon-toed, flat-footed or east-west.  If a bone was broken it would hurt until healed, even if it hadn't been set.  Of course if muscle, cartalige or tendons were torn and had not healed the individual would be in pain during movement.  Sometimes, as most of us may have experienced, pain occurs when we aren't doing anything.  I thought for sure that a showline person would have misunderstood my comments.  It's ok, because at least I got to explain myself a little more.  Now you know why I have been a fly on the wall since 2002.  I know. I joined in 2006, and have posted maybe three times.  Can you blame me?                                                          Love and Peace,     Marcia

by georgehopwood on 26 January 2009 - 21:01

just been informed that some of those clips were taken from the Manchester Show 2008, that is probarly why some of the dogs are on a hard surface............

Videx

by Videx on 26 January 2009 - 21:01

 It is very clear there is some slight looseness is some of the GSD shown, they were probably youngsters and/or uncomfortable of the floor surface, not being used to it. Many of the dogs in the film were firm and straight in their hocks. They may have more hind angulation that some would like, for example working GSD folk, but these are GSD Show dogs. There is no doubt that most comments already on here are biased and ignorant of GSD Show dogs and their conformation. They are certainly unable to JUDGE the German Shepherd Dog correct conformation, as determined by the German SV "visually" at the annual World Championship Show, or through knowledge and experience of GSD conformation, gained over many years, particularly and most cleary they do NOT understand hindquarters, angulation and hind movement.
David Payne GSD Championship Show Judge, 30+ years considerable experience and knowledge.



by mccia on 26 January 2009 - 21:01

Sorry guys,  for this post.  The movement that I was answerning about is the movement that the judge was looking for, not how well do they walk.   Do I think that they could walk well, Well no.                  Love and Peace again,   Marcia

by Uglydog on 26 January 2009 - 21:01

'There is no doubt that most comments already on here are biased and ignorant of GSD Show dogs and their conformation. They are certainly unable to JUDGE the German Shepherd Dog correct conformation, as determined by the German SV "visually" at the annual World Championship Show, or through knowledge and experience of GSD conformation, gained over many years, particularly and most cleary they do NOT understand hindquarters, angulation and hind movement.'
David Payne GSD Championship Show Judge, 30+ years considerable experience and knowledge.'


THAT'S RIGHT FOLKS.
DONT BELIEVE YOUR LYING EYES..
WHY WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT MAX V STEPHANITZ HAD AS HIS GOALS FOR HIS GERMAN SHEPHERD BREED.

:)





 


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