svv1 or zvv1 what does that mean for a dog in us

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by OGBS on 10 March 2009 - 18:03

Chris,
Sorry to be arguing with you so much this week, I really don't mean to, but, that video doesn't show more than about 10% of what a dog is tested on in one of their trials.
I also question if it is actually a Czeck working dog trial or a Schutzhund trial in Czech Republic. The Czechs and Slovaks do not teach their dogs to heel while looking up at the handler unless they are competing in Schutzhund. One of the dogs clearly does this. There are specific reasons why they don't heel this way. It is not a "style" thing. A dog taught to heel that way would never get through their trial system.

by jennie on 10 March 2009 - 20:03

The protectionpart seems very much like SCH, so it doesn´t seem to be that much harder. If this is the SVV3 that is,

www.youtube.com/watch

by Christopher Smith on 11 March 2009 - 07:03

...that video doesn't show more than about 10% of what a dog is tested on in one of their trials.

Really? http://www.eurosportk9.com/zvv1.asp

by OGBS on 11 March 2009 - 16:03

Well Chris, From what you see on that video and what you read you can see there is more to it than what you see in the video you posted.
Sorry again, but, I will also point out that what is on Josef and Taunya's web site is not the entirety of what the dog is tested on.
I know you like to be correct so look in to it more and then you'll know.

by Christopher Smith on 11 March 2009 - 17:03

Answer my question WHAT IS THE 90% THAT IS MISSING?

That is what a dog is tested on in ZVV1. I just sold a dog with a ZVVI and I know for a fact that these are the exercises. Can you explain to me why the youtube link(-dog walk), Eurosport and the link below all have the the same exercises for ZVV1?

Right now everything points to you being wrong. Put up some proof.

http://www.schraderhausk9.com/SVV.htm

by jennie on 11 March 2009 - 18:03

This SVV seems to have some elements of the swedish protectionprogram, like crawling and go over a ladder in the obedience, boths SCH and SVV seems like a walk in the park compared to the number of things a dog should do in that program.

by Christopher Smith on 11 March 2009 - 18:03

Lots of things look easy until you try to do them.

by OGBS on 11 March 2009 - 18:03

Chris,
That's great that you can look up the info on others sites, I am familiar with them also. They aren't entirely correct.
I also own a dog that has been titled in Slovakia. Like the poster above says there are things like military crawls, heeling on a balance beam, etc. They run more blinds, there are confrontations that the helper and handler have. None of that is in your precious video on you tube.
Sorry I am not wrong I just have better info than you do.
Get over it.

by jennie on 11 March 2009 - 18:03

Christopher, it depends on what you compare it too, the protectionpart in SCH is pretty easy due to the fact it involves so few routines, scoring high in all three pashes is if course not easy, but just to get a title can´t be that hard compared to program where there is so much more things to do to get a title.

by Christopher Smith on 11 March 2009 - 20:03

I also own a dog that has been titled in Slovakia. Like the poster above says there are things like military crawls, heeling on a balance beam, etc.

Not in ZVV1 !!!!

And like I said PROVE IT!!!

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