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JenM66

by JenM66 on 24 May 2009 - 23:05

http://www.jagermeistershepherds.com/dogs.html

by RDH on 24 May 2009 - 23:05

Yellow rose sorry to hear about your dogs that passed :( I know Dennis but I don't recall seeing tiekerhook lines on his website. Do you know Kreiger is a breeder? (is that his full username?)

JenM66 the website has many tiekerhook lines but no offense they aren't that good looking of dogs may be its poor quality of the pictures taken. I looked at the gallery the dogs there look much nicer but I don't know if they are tiekerhook lines though.

by eichenluft on 25 May 2009 - 01:05

The foundation dogs in my breeding program were/are Tiekerhook dogs.  I have V-Eagle v Eichenluft Schh3 (25X), FH2,KKl-1 (retired) who is a son of Xinerobella v Tiekerhook Schh3.  Xinerobella was a Fero daughter, Harro granddaughter.  She is also the grandmother of one of my other stud dogs Kaos v Eichenluft Schh3.  One of my females who will be bred this year is Eagle's daughter, therefore also a Xinerobella Tiekerhook granddaughter, carrying on the very strong motherline I have bred for many years via Eagle and his siblings.

I also owned V-Bodo v Tiekerhook Schh3,KKl-1 for the last few years of his life.  I have a few straws of his semen frozen and will use them when I have the best female match for him.

As for the comment about Jagermeister's dogs - Tiekerhook dogs are not known for their beauty - they are often smaller in size (though stocky and strongly muscled) and grey/lighter pigment.  They are more known for their drives and work ethic - aggression and power.  Not always for the average pet owner, for sure.

molly

Eichenluft
http://workinggermanshepherd.com


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 25 May 2009 - 03:05

Kreiger can be found by search the messageboard...  I don't know if he is called a breeder...you ask for  Tiekerhook breedings...not breeders...Kreiger and Dennis both have Tiekerhook dogs..I was on the phone for weeks with both of them when they bought them...now whether they still have them or not ,, I don't know   pm either of them off the board. 

Number one,,they are too young to be in a breeding program and I do not know...what they did with them...ask them,,please...






by Dogs Rules on 25 May 2009 - 04:05

Max Tiekerhook is the best dog in decades?? What has the dog done any apperances at WUSV, Any titled dogs from his offspring ever do anything?  As a long time helper in the sport and schutzhund trainer this dog is a Schutzhund 3 and nothing that is outstanding. I am familar with the lines from Tiekerhook and they are small as stated and also nervy with more civil aggression from fear than courage. Back in the late 80's and early 90"s  some impressive dogs but the Tiekerhook of late is not good breeding and certainely not worth 3,500 for a puppy that will inherit issues with temperament. Most people say they are hard but I see more nerve in them than hardness. 

Some impressive dogs that are proven would be  Olex, Sid v.  Pixner, Zidane, Asko Lutter, Falk, Ellute  that have put out dog after dog of clear head with plenty of civil as well as working abilty and have achieved something of note themselves as well as producing. Not to knock anyones choice of dogs  but this has to be the most over rated dog of the decade in my opinion.   I have caught Mollies dog  Eagle before and I would take a dog from her kennel over anything from Koo's. 
 
You novice folks on the data base know little of nothing about dogs/bloodlines  from reading your posts and I from time to time read some of the crap but the Max Tiekerhook average dog today I would not want free.  


by Held on 25 May 2009 - 15:05

Hey Dogs Rule ,i do not mean to knock your knowledge or understanding of blood lines but what makes Max an averge dog? i also disagree with Vikram,s statement,but would say what i know of max and seen he seems to be a very hard dog very much like his father.and bread properly could produce some serious dogs but that is up to Mr Koss Hassing. have a nice one.

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 25 May 2009 - 19:05

No puppy should cost $3,500 or even $2,500.  I wouldn't go to the source in this case either as if I had done that with my Mambo pup I would have paid $2,500 or more. Instead I got it from another kennel who bred their bitch to Mambo and I paid a lot less money. I too wanted a dog out of Max van Tiekerhook at one point, but not everyone can just throw down $3,500 at once....at least right now.

ts342003

by ts342003 on 25 May 2009 - 19:05

I had a female out of Max last summer! Very nice prey drive! tons of defense drive. Sold her for temperment issue. I socialized the hell out of her but issue was hard to live with. Heard of others with same temperment issues..

Avat. picture is her at 1 yrs old...

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 25 May 2009 - 19:05

Thanks   number    ts342003

lol

I never had temperament problems out of my Tiekerhook pups, because I raised them from the very minute they were born , and Gator was a Police apprehenshion dog,,,but I did and do have major   SKIN  PROBLEMS
when they got older...Every one of them had major big tumors and i have talked to other breeders in Germany that had the same problem as the Tiekerhook dogs got past 5 yrs old.


by eichenluft on 25 May 2009 - 19:05

I've known many many Tiekerhook dogs and dogs bred from Tiekerhook dogs - no skin problems in my experience, and no major health problems unusual for the breed and any other bloodlines.

molly





 


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