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by Rezkat5 on 12 June 2009 - 15:06
In the U.S. it is simply because people can and it is easier to just not put the work/money in to do it.
For me, I like to see the titles and as Molly said at least the minimum. Now, that being said, the titles are also not the be all/end all either! The Koerung is an added bonus!
And as Chris said, unless the buyer is informed.....
Kathy
by Bhall on 12 June 2009 - 16:06
by VonIsengard on 12 June 2009 - 16:06
Personally, I would love it if the SV allowed certified working K9s to be eligible for a KKL, or PSA dogs, etc. Broaden the system (and the gene pool!), as it were.
I have always thought it would be a great idea for a young dog to be allowed a provisional year for breeding prior to the SchH!, with requirements, of course, such as a BH, AD, hips/elbows, conformation rating, a revised "courage test" type routine to display drives, and still be subjected to KKL inspections (measurements, dentition, etc.). In some parts of the US, SchH clubs are few and far between and it may take someone until their dog is three or four to get titled. A lot of work only to be disappointed that your bitch has trouble breeding or whelping, or your male doesn't really produce himself. And according to many breeders, the longer you wait, the more chancy breeding becomes. It would be helpful for breeders to able to try out a young dog, and still stay within the parameters of some kind of system standard, before making the decision to go "all the way" as it were.
For me, a Koerung is NOT an added bonus. If you can title your dog, there is no reason whatsoever why your dog cannot get a koerung unless it has poor structure or some form of unacceptable fault, in which case it doesn't belong the gene pool anyway.
That said: I'm so tired of hearing all the boo-hooing about how titles take too much time and money. A SchH1 is not that hard for a dog is naturally a good worker, as a GSD should be. If you don't have time and resources to test your breeding stock's physical and mental ability, you don't have the time or resources to be a working dog breeder. Hell, do a damn TD, a CD, go to a SAR club, SOMETHING! There is no excuse for a breeding GSD to not have some form of working/performance title or certification.
by Wise Guy on 12 June 2009 - 16:06
It would mean more to me - personally speaking - to get a puppy or older dog from a male/female that are actual active working dogs in the real world as they are often put in situations that a (protected) show dog would not be. It puts stresses and challenges on the animal (environmental, social, family, work) that support a true versatility. If such a dog is ALSO shown, that's great, too.
To me the German shepherd was meant to be a dog that can do a job - whether it's helping someone with a disability, being a working military dog, herding sheep, etc. And the dog also needs to have the structure to go with the temperament. Chances are, a dog that can rate highly in both areas is the TOTAL PACKAGE.
This is NOT a slam against people who show/compete. I'm just saying that there are many ways to measure a dogs fitness for improving the breed.
by Rezkat5 on 12 June 2009 - 16:06
True.....but I guess since it seems that folks that go out there and Koer their dogs are the "minority" it might just seems like a bonus.
I'm tired too of hearing about how the dog could title very easily, and folks just don't have the time to do it. Or there aren't enough trials around. Make the time and don't be in such a hurry to breed it. My dogs are titled in HGH, there is but one opportunity per year to do that and this past October I traveled 6 hours to do it again. My female was Koered with the HGH title and my male was HGH SchH1 for his initial, HGH ScH3 for his resurvey. I'm already looking and preparing to see where I can resurvey my female next year. I'm not a breeder, but would like to have a litter with my female next year. I knew that she was perfectly capable of doing it, so we did it.
Kathy
by Mystere on 12 June 2009 - 16:06
by Rezkat5 on 12 June 2009 - 16:06
by VonIsengard on 12 June 2009 - 17:06
by Mystere on 12 June 2009 - 17:06
by Rezkat5 on 12 June 2009 - 17:06
Where there's a will there's a way!
Kathy
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