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jletcher18

by jletcher18 on 06 November 2009 - 04:11

vote was 36 yes, 17 no,,,,,as was told to me by our delegate
john

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 06 November 2009 - 04:11

Welcome

Rik

by Rik on 06 November 2009 - 04:11

Phil, as a USA member, thank you.

Rik

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 06 November 2009 - 05:11

Thank you for the information, Phil.

Sad day for the GSD and for the schutzhund sport today.

Robin, I wondered that myself about co-ownerships, it would seem like a way to get around the rules- but when they see your dog earned a title for koerung at a WDA event, that would let the cat out of the bag, I would think.  I would rather not give USA a penny of my membership fee, or entry fee, in light of this poor decision.  I may go watch the USA SS to see the dogs "work", but I won't so much as buy a catalog or a bottle of water.

Seems to me like most of the WDA clubs plan to stay that way, I take it?




by JudyK on 06 November 2009 - 12:11

Phil, did they say  how they are going to police this mess?  I doubt WDA will give up a membership list for them to check off names.  And you are right about this being all about personal freedom to choose.  I haven't seen so many people so wired about anything in a long time.  
Judy

by crhuerta on 06 November 2009 - 13:11

I ask this question because we do "co-own" dogs with other people......a couple are UScA members also, as are/were we.
Where does it leave the "dogs"??......must one then be forced to "divorce" a partnership, like Phil humored...?
This is a sad day for the sport(s) and membership(s).
Robin

CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 06 November 2009 - 13:11

Question for anyone who was there - in regards to the new rule that you have to be a member of USA for a regional or higher event, and an AWDF club member for a club trial, did anyone bring up an exception for foreigners?


Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 06 November 2009 - 13:11

Yes.  People who hold membership with foreign registries are exempt from persecution, after all, we don't have the right to tell other countries what to do or how to run their politics,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,do we?

by hodie on 06 November 2009 - 15:11

This is a fundamentally flawed amendment and if any of you, your clubs, your friends really care about the freedom issue so often spouted herein on this forum, let's see you put your money where your mouth is. WITHDRAW FROM MEMBERSHIP - whether you go join WDA or some other organization is up to you. 

I would bet money that if many clubs start withdrawing from the United Schutzhund Clubs of America as member clubs, and individuals do the same and refuse to renew their membership, this action will be changed. No one has the right to tell anyone what group, club, or organization one may not belong to, however offensive or at odds with the other group, club or organization that membership in such a second entity might seem. This is an issue as much about principle as it is anything else. And no, you can bet WDA will not divulge its' membership lists, but just think of it, there are plenty of people who have been open about their dual memberships. Maybe now we will see a renewal of the Witch Trials, where people are accused of belonging.....what a thought. This is so idiotic a measure that it really takes the cake and those who foisted this upon the membership should also be ousted.

Of course, anyone who has long been involved in this organization also knows that there are a host of other reasons why such an amendment was promulgated. The vote process, where a very small number of clubs can dictate what will happen to the membership as a whole is flawed to begin with and has, over the years, said it all in terms of what the organization thinks of the voice of individuals who make up the organization. It has been, and will continue to be about a small group of people and clubs, until and unless the rest of you speak out.

I know my club is happy we are no longer associated with the United Schutzhund Clubs of America. They could have cared less about us, except for our money and our roster.... 

I say again, until those of you who realize what has happened here protest in a meaningful manner, meaning leaving the organization, nothing will change. Of course, that is exactly what the powers that be hope for. If, as so often, people only gripe here and do nothing else, nothing will come of it. The powers that be are betting on your lack of action and commitment.

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 06 November 2009 - 16:11

Exactly, hodie! Great to see you back.





 


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