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by Prager on 08 January 2010 - 01:01
Uglydog; we all know that you are right. There are bad cops and then there are good cops. I'd like to believe that most of them are good. At least the ones I know are all good. But:
Please .
Let's not beat on cops here. This is about K9 Blek. He was definitely a GOOD COP.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
Please .
Let's not beat on cops here. This is about K9 Blek. He was definitely a GOOD COP.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
by Slamdunc on 08 January 2010 - 01:01
Hans,
You are a gentleman. Some people will try to hijack a thread with their own agenda. I'm glad you are staying on topic.
Jim
by CrysBuck25 on 08 January 2010 - 03:01
Yes, indeed, rest in peace, Officer Blek.
He did the job he was trained for and gave his life to do it. That is the point of this thread, not to argue. I know of dirty cops, around here there is quite a bit of corruption. That said, there are some very good police officers here, as well, and I respect all honest LEOs. We are all human beings, we eat, we sleep, etc. Some of us just have jobs that require us to face gunfire and other dangers that most don't face on a daily basis.
As for vests...They don't protect against some rifle rounds and they don't protect heads, either. So a vest isn't always the equivalent of a good K9.
Just my opinion...I know quite a few LEOs...Have great respect for many. I obey the law and have no reason to ever run from law enforcement. I know people who work for federal law enforcement as well as local and state levels...Most are very upstanding people.
I read a post above where someone offered to give a pup from an upcoming litter to Blek's human partner...I feel that's a good way to honor the dog's sacrifice. There's no dog that can ever fill his pawprints, but the pup might fill the empty place.
Crys
He did the job he was trained for and gave his life to do it. That is the point of this thread, not to argue. I know of dirty cops, around here there is quite a bit of corruption. That said, there are some very good police officers here, as well, and I respect all honest LEOs. We are all human beings, we eat, we sleep, etc. Some of us just have jobs that require us to face gunfire and other dangers that most don't face on a daily basis.
As for vests...They don't protect against some rifle rounds and they don't protect heads, either. So a vest isn't always the equivalent of a good K9.
Just my opinion...I know quite a few LEOs...Have great respect for many. I obey the law and have no reason to ever run from law enforcement. I know people who work for federal law enforcement as well as local and state levels...Most are very upstanding people.
I read a post above where someone offered to give a pup from an upcoming litter to Blek's human partner...I feel that's a good way to honor the dog's sacrifice. There's no dog that can ever fill his pawprints, but the pup might fill the empty place.
Crys
by deacon on 08 January 2010 - 05:01
Hey Ugly, deacon here.long time no read. Come on now ease up on us peacekeepers. You are making me paranoid again man!!
Give it a rest and mourn the real hero here!! 
As Always
Deacon
Give it a rest and mourn the real hero here!! As Always
Deacon
by Prager on 09 January 2010 - 01:01
by Blazer30 on 23 January 2010 - 06:01
I agree with everything said to a certain extent , but the question at bar in court will continue to be whether or not this was trully a standardized deployment of the police K9, as accepted by the Supreme court.
There are variable heres, one for example is the hellicopter swirling above, which made it impossible for the dog to hear commands which might have saved his life. This hellicopter also made for a deploment of a K9 not under complete control, therefore incapable of adhering to any deployment protocals or levels of acceptable force set forth by the law.
In other words, the defense might argue it could be deemed excessive force since the force was impossible to regulate with the dog. Therefore creating a gray area, where a person could reasonably beleive their life is in danger if they do not attempt to neutralize a huge out of control, "unsupervised" german shepherd, from tearing them apart.
It's like saying a baton is considered non-lethal which is true to a certain extent, but once you know your perp is out cold and handcuffed, an officer cannot continue to bash him with the baton until he dies. And then state, you thought it was ok because a baton strike in most circumstances is not considered lethal force.
Just shedding some light on what I know the defense will play with. I still whole heartedly believe the dog was killed only to help facilitiate their escape.
Prager can I ask you what you think of SG Orry (IT) owned at Van Den Huevel? And their female Bina z Pohranicni Straze?
And what is your favorite producing male out of Czech right now, still currently at stud.
Thank you in advance
There are variable heres, one for example is the hellicopter swirling above, which made it impossible for the dog to hear commands which might have saved his life. This hellicopter also made for a deploment of a K9 not under complete control, therefore incapable of adhering to any deployment protocals or levels of acceptable force set forth by the law.
In other words, the defense might argue it could be deemed excessive force since the force was impossible to regulate with the dog. Therefore creating a gray area, where a person could reasonably beleive their life is in danger if they do not attempt to neutralize a huge out of control, "unsupervised" german shepherd, from tearing them apart.
It's like saying a baton is considered non-lethal which is true to a certain extent, but once you know your perp is out cold and handcuffed, an officer cannot continue to bash him with the baton until he dies. And then state, you thought it was ok because a baton strike in most circumstances is not considered lethal force.
Just shedding some light on what I know the defense will play with. I still whole heartedly believe the dog was killed only to help facilitiate their escape.
Prager can I ask you what you think of SG Orry (IT) owned at Van Den Huevel? And their female Bina z Pohranicni Straze?
And what is your favorite producing male out of Czech right now, still currently at stud.
Thank you in advance
by VanessaT on 23 January 2010 - 16:01
Don't cop killers get the death penalty in Texas?
by Slamdunc on 24 January 2010 - 03:01
VanessaT,
Unfortunately, killing a Police K9 does not have the same penalty as killing a Police Officer. In my state the slime bucket that killed a K9 a few years back got 6 years to serve.
Blazer,
who cares what the defense will try to do, this thread is about honoring the valiant K9 killed by a scummy POS. I'm not going to play devils advocate, it's a futile endeavor. You baton analogy is not even close and way off base. I have some friends who are defense atty's and I know some very good defense atty's, but I have also seen some real shady ones. They can try what ever they want. These criminals were caught red handed, they'll get more time for their other crimes than the murder of K9 Blek. I hope they rot in the pen.
Jim
Unfortunately, killing a Police K9 does not have the same penalty as killing a Police Officer. In my state the slime bucket that killed a K9 a few years back got 6 years to serve.
Blazer,
who cares what the defense will try to do, this thread is about honoring the valiant K9 killed by a scummy POS. I'm not going to play devils advocate, it's a futile endeavor. You baton analogy is not even close and way off base. I have some friends who are defense atty's and I know some very good defense atty's, but I have also seen some real shady ones. They can try what ever they want. These criminals were caught red handed, they'll get more time for their other crimes than the murder of K9 Blek. I hope they rot in the pen.
Jim
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