Hip dysplasia in young dog - Page 2

I hope she came with a hip/elbow guarantee and that the breeder does not continue using this combination.  Large breed formulas offer gluco or supplement with over the counter gluco.

Her Dad is the breeder! I'm still waiting for my money back or a Healthy Pup......to bad that won't ever happen. Same with other folk's too!  Sad.........that is what happens when you trust people.......life goes on!

i don't know what the situation is in the breeding of this young dog nor do i want to get in the middle of an ethics discussion on it.  i feel the need to say something here that is based solely on my own experience.  i don't think it is fair to assume that one bad elbow or one bad hip means that the sire or dam should never be bred again.  i keep hearing this over and over on this board......often from people who have no clue about breeding.  they are merely repeating something they've heard someone else say.  here is my experience:  back in 2001, i bought a very nice female pup from a well known german breeder.  this woman does things the "right" way.  she titles her own dogs, shows them for their confirmation rating, gets them koered, does her own breeding and rearing pups.  she imports and exports for other folks, does a few seminars and helps lots of other folks in training their dogs.  she has very strong workingline dogs and works very hard to make them the best they can be.  the pup i bought from her turned out to have lousy elbows.  this pup was from her 7th litter.  she had never before had an elbow problem.  the exact same combination produced her 11th litter with no elbow problems.  to date, she has registered 19 litters from her kennel and i am not aware of any further elbow problems.  her male was used on many other outside females as well and always produced fine pups.  to her credit, she offered to replace the dog for me.  at that time, germany was still using DM before the euro and since i had only paid $600 in usd for the dog, i could not see any point in shipping the dog back to germany and having her ship me a new one.  i still have the dog.  she will be 9 yrs this year.  i have a number of other dogs as well besides the male mentioned in the above post that is my husband's dog.  this female is an awesome tracker and has pretty descent grips.  we appreciate her for what she is and live with her accordingly.  as a sidenote, i have recommended this german breeder to others because i respect her a great deal for the way she does business.  i am still in contact with her and will continue to be.  i just felt the need to say something about this breeding because too many folks have their minds made up on this issue before they even knokw all the facts.  ya know, $hi+ happens sometimes and i know in my heart that this woman always has and always will produce the very best that she can.  we cannot always control the outcome.  sometimes, even when we do everything right, things just don't pan out.  we need to do our homework, buy from reputable breeders, be reputable breeders and remember that sometimes the unthinkable will still happen.  one bad elbow or hip may or may not be the kiss of death.
pjp

pjp..........I agree with the situation you stated above....but it has no bearing on the situation with the GSD's being breed in the original post. You don't know the facts on this situation and your reasoning does not apply at all in the situation of the original post.

So are you saying that she bred dogs who themselves had elbow problems or that she bred dogs who produced one pup that had elbow problems?  Big difference and no, one bad elbow or hip should preclude the dog from breeding.  Too many people seem to be looking for excuses to breed their dogs when they should be looking for reasons not to.

Keith,
  Without  spouting off for my own reasons....No, not her, her father breed the same bitch numerous times after knowing of numerous complaints of auto immune disorder and many cases of hip and elbow problems. Assuming that because the stud was different in each breeding and that each breeding has many pup's with these problems, the bitch seems to be passing on these problems. The Pup's are beautiful, smart and full of drive, but have so many problems it's a shame that she continues being used for breeding. Not knowing these problems were out there till months and months of research it is a shame that this continues to go on and on. Now even the daughter has a gorgeous female from the same bitch that now too has hip dysplasia. I have contacted or been contacted by other's that have purchased pup's from this breeder and the same problems just keep on coming up. I just feel really bad for all these Pup's that can not have normal lives and the people like myself that have spent many thousands of dollars to make  our Pup's lives as comfortable as we can. No one should breed dogs with well known faults or unhealthy backgrounds period. I don't care how great of a breeder they think they are..............it's all about the money.......when it should be all about the dog. Cryin shame! .....life goes on and what goes around comes around!

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