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Thank you.. :)I do get embarassed :-\ Credit I will happily take when I see DM gone from our breed...I have faith this can happen. People just need to realize what a horrid disease this is, and share, share, share info! Since DM doesnt usually show up until after a dog is bred, we need to know which dogs have produced DM progeny. If we do nothing, and dont share information, we will continue to see our dogs self destruct :( If information were openly shared, breeders would know which breedings would be doubling up on the same health issues, and they could, therefore, avoid doubling up on a particular problem. That is why I created the GSDBBR- the German Shepherd dog Bree Betterment Registry. I took a long long time to create this Health Registry, but hopefully, it will become accepted, and give our breed a new lease on life. BTW, Heaven's Gate is not just for DM dogs. The GSDBBR replaced Heaven's Gate , as a Health Registry, because I felt that a true health registry needed to have pedigrees and information that rescue owners couldnt provide. I also felt that a true health regitry would need to be able to follow a dog throughout its lifetime. However, the health problems of rescued GSDS are an important indicator of the problems in the breed, since pet owners are very forthright about the health problems they have with their dogs. Therefore, Heaven's Gate remains, to me, a very good indicator of the health problems we have in the breed. It seems to be geared towards DM, but it is not!!! Unfortunately, it just shows the enormity of the problem we have with DM in this breed. :(

hmmm - another one shot anyomous attack from the same old camp....and this "ID" resurrected as well after being deleted for attacks previously!! Considering that DM develops in many many many older GSDs, how can anyone even begin to accuse ANY breeder of foul intentions where this particular disease is found??????????? Didn't you/your alter ego/good friend who is behind this tiresome neverending BS breed a mother and daughter/s who had Pannus??? Is still breeding a son of that female who had pannus??? And a daughter/granddaughter of the original female? Developed late - but ignored as 2 generations down STILL being bred?? Yes - I had 2 litters from a dog who APPARENTLY developed DM at 11 - ELEVEN - years old - who was also worked and had been hit by a car at 10!!! Who had 2 - TWO - litters and was spayed right after her second litter and kept as a beloved pet. If you throw out every dog from every line who has had or has produced HD, DM, ED, EPI, Allergies etc - there would be NO - NONE - Zip - Zero - dogs left in the gene pool. sheesh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DM is a disease which is normally of OLD dogs - and other things do have similar symptoms. Like many other problems which show up in aged animals, these dogs have been bred and are FAR past their producing years when they show up.

The problem with crippling diseases in our breed, such as DM, Pannus, - those diseases that often show up in elderly dogs, is that the affected dogs are often bred before they ever develop symptoms of the disease. Pannus, and DM - according to experts in orthopedic and ocular veterinary medicine, neither disease has been proven to be genetic, passed on to offspring. Pannus and DM are both considered common "old dog problems" common to our breed especially. So it is very hard to eliminate these diseases from our breed, because dogs who develop these diseases have already been bred before they themselves are affected. However, when dogs have symptoms of these diseases before or during their breeding career, or develop either problem at young ages (Pannus or DM symptoms at 2 years old is far different than Pannus or DM at 11 years old) then it is the duty of the breeder to NOT breed that affected dog. In my case, my old female developed an inflammation of her third eyelid, at 11 years old - this was successfully treated and because what was thought to be Pannus, receded and never returned, it was NOT Pannus after all (Pannus does not go away with any treatment). Another of my females developed minor Pannus at 9 years old, also after her breeding career was over, and several vet opthomologists reported it was minor, and not genetic. No progeny have developed Pannus, and so I am comfortable with agreeing with the experts' statement "old dog affliction in this case". However, when breeders such as Wolfstraum "Kougar" breed a female who was supposed to be retired from breeding, took her in as a rescued not-supposed-to-be bred female, and then bred her to an untitled, under-age, non-OFA male, then AGAIN for a second litter to produce her "A" and "B" Wolfstraum litters, not long before she was euthanized due to becoming CRIPPLED due to DM symptoms, this is certainly a questionable breeding practise. molly

SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS Lies, twisted facts and green eyed monsters. Math is not a strong suit here either. Critism of a KKL1 female sired by a BSP winner, dam of a 4x Sch3 male {A litter} and a currently Sch2, KKL male [B litter] - from a kennel breeding non koered and non titled dogs where the last schh3 titled dog was born over 5 years and 25 litters ago. FACTS are published and easy to verify. 2005 HOT scores. Trial results. Breeding reports. All published in USA magazines. All the way back to 1995.

Kougar/lee, I checked your stats, a few litters including the accidental first one does not make you an expert. If you’re in a mood for facts, why not explain to everyone why you bred a dog that you supposedly rescued at such an advanced age. What you did is disgusting. Rescuing a dog does not include breeding them to exploit them. And while you’re at it, tell us how many clubs besides Penn-Ohio you’ve been tossed out off? You might have fooled a few folks about your lack of expertise, but don’t expect everyone to fall for your BS. What you do is a ¿ step above being a back yard breeder. Do you plan to trial any of your breedings at regional or national events? If you claim to be so great with breeding, get out and do something, otherwise shut up and crawl back up the rock you out from under.

diechmann Joined 26.05.2006 User sent messages Degenerative Myelopathy Symptoms - (30 Maí 01:05) Degenerative Myelopathy Symptoms - (26 Maí 19:05) Degenerative Myelopathy Symptoms - (26 Maí 19:05) User sent comments User sent ads So transparent...........even to using part of the kennel name and transposing it - join the board under an alias ONLY to spread spiteful nonsense, lies, twisted rumors ......Perhaps when the IP addresses are recovered an end can be put to the spite and lies and unsubstantiated BS - this whole facade of made up nonsense about a Pink papered, titled, imported KKL1 dog I ***paid for**** is a disgrace - BTW papers are NOT available on "rescues"...I see dogs bred up to 10 years old - with 4 litters between 8 and 10! And that is OK???????????? Passed around to hide that fact too.

Lee, just try and answer a question. You don't have to attempt to blame someone else. I lost my first dog to DM at age 14. If you bred a female to an untitled male with no OFA rating and knew she had DM symproms (never mind she was 8 when you first bred her, followed by a back to back breeding) you are a disgrace as a breed warden, the USCA should be ashamed to have someone like you. So why did you get bonced out off so many clubs????

Why don't you guys take this private please. Thanks.

Blitzen - if YOU can figure out a way to stop this constant BS and harassment I would REALLY appreciate it...it is totally transparent and obvious - the patterns are always the same - and follow the private threats I receved as well. It gets tiresome - but she has told me she "will never give up".... SIGH

>Thats because DR Clemmons discovered the marker, and the procedure in which he looks for the marker has not been released, so, therefore, it would be impossible for his work to be duplicated, at the present time. In order to duplicate his findings, others would need to know the methodology utilized by DR Clemmons. Dr Clemmons has just shared his methodology with the AKCCHF, in his grant request. In his grant request, he, for the first time, has described how to test for the DNA marker. Has he patented the test?