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by kmaot on 17 December 2010 - 01:12

Thanks for sharing Louise!

CrysBuck25

by CrysBuck25 on 17 December 2010 - 02:12

Yes, I believe we are...

And that concern extends to humans.  The same conditions observed in dogs since heavy vaccination became the big thing, cancer, allergies, immune issues, are becoming increasingly prevalent in humans, as well.

Might do all of us good to take a step back and really, deeply, examine who benefits from the massive vaccination campaigns of the past couple of decades, for all creatures who are vaccinated.  Could be we are doing a lot more damage to our loved ones than we want to consider.

Just my opinion, an opinion shared by many here, and by many doctors and veterinarians, too,

Crys

nonacona60

by nonacona60 on 17 December 2010 - 03:12

I've always wondered why we give so many vacs now, when as a little girl My dad NEVER vacinated his beagles...He never had problems with diaeases we vacinate for now....I do remember him worming his dogs but can't remember what he used....

Another thing is males that retain a testicle.....It was unheard of, that males needed to have retained tesicles removed......It just never happened, and it was never heard of that a male died of cancer due to a retained testicle.....So why is it now, that male MUST have surgery to remove that retained testicle? 

Sorry didn't mean to hijack thread, probably should have started a new one....

novarobin

by novarobin on 17 December 2010 - 11:12

Talk about timing. 
I have been considering this for awhile and I just received my notice in the mail my Lab is due for vaccinations.  I think I am going to talk to my vet about it.
This vet is relatively new to me.  I left my old vet for a few reasons.  I do really like the new one.  I was pleased when I showed up with my Lab for his yearly vaccinations and she sent me away, saying that it wasn't necessary every year.  I will be interested to hear her thoughts on what is necessary and titering.
 
Does anyone know where I can find out what I should be concerned about in my area (I am in Canada)?

TingiesandTails

by TingiesandTails on 17 December 2010 - 22:12

Where in Canada are you at Novarobin?
Research your areas health advisory and ask if there where recent cases of infectious diseases in dogs.
If you live North or in the Prairies the likelyhood of getting borelliosis is small, as ticks are rare. Leptospirosis is prevalent in areas with standing waters and rats. Hence, not of use in Alberta (no rats). Leptospira are transmitted through rat pee (and they might pee in standing waters). Parvo/Distemper are very dangerous for dogs with compromised immune system (esp. puppies and seniors), but can also afflict obvioulsly healthy adult dogs. 
Best to do your own research. There are lots of sites online. Holistic vets in your area can help you, too.
In the end, you are responsible for your dog's health. Make the best of it.

TingiesandTails

by TingiesandTails on 17 December 2010 - 22:12

Here is a link to a list for Holistic Vets in Canada:
www.acreaturecomfort.com/holisticveterinarians.htm

Here is the American Holistic Veterinary Associaton link:
www.ahvma.org/

by jmopaso on 18 December 2010 - 01:12

It all depends on where you live as to what vaccines are appropriate or not appropriate for your dog.If you live in an area that a disease is prevalent, then you are a fool if you do not vaccinate your dog for that disease.
 
I have seen a fair number of older dogs turn up positive for parvo with a history of never having been vaccinated or not having been vaccinated since they were a puppy. Active cases in an older dog are usually fatal. This goes as well for the other frequently vaccinated for diseases. The immune system is what it is....... if you don't understand how the immune system works, then go do some research.

If you really do titers on your dogs, you are probably doing fine. If you don't and just decide to "poo Poo' the whole vacccine idea, then you are making  a big  mistake with your dogs' health.

These diseases are real and they can often be fatal. pay attention, don't just go with some fad.
Be infomed.

novarobin

by novarobin on 18 December 2010 - 17:12

Thanks, Tingiesandtails.
 
I am in Eastern Canada with no holistic vets in my area.

jmopaso - I haven't made the appointment yet, but I do plan on discussing with my vet and titering.  I do not plan on just simply stopping vaccinations. 
My vet is pretty open minded and keeps up to date, so I anticipate she will be able to answer my questions without bias.  It was she who advised me my dog didn't need yearly vaccinations. 

starrchar

by starrchar on 18 December 2010 - 18:12

I didn't have time to read all the responses to this post, but yes, we are definitely over vaccinating which is causing immune system issues in our dogs. Many vet schools are changing their vaccine protocols because they agree we are over vaccinating our pets. I do not vaccinate yearly, but I do titers every three years to try and make sure my dogs are protected.

In addition to the vaccines, we are poisoning our pets with heartworm medication and flea and tick preventative, so it is importaant to use those products as sparingly as possible. My vet said every 6-8 weeks for heartworm preventative is adequate and not to be used during the winter. Use the flea and tick preventatives only when needed. If you want to take it a step farther, don't use any of those chemical products on your dogs and try alternative methods. Then of course, there is the kibble food many feed, some of which have toxins and the list goes on....    


Sherman-RanchGSD

by Sherman-RanchGSD on 19 December 2010 - 00:12

Certainly gives food for thaught.. Recent studies have proven that enviorment can and does have direct effect on genes..That could be something as simple as antibiotics ..and yes Vaccinations. How, when , why and who it changes the genes is a mystery for now.
Enjoyed the article

Debi
www.sherman-ranch.us
www.ironfistcreations.us





 


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