Culling pups from the litter - Page 12

Jenni78-
I like the sound of your old family vet! ;)
It'd be great if more doctors took on that same thought process on euthanasia. Dog ownership shouldn't be taken so lightly. They're a 15 year commitment. Some may go sooner, few stay longer. Be prepared for that responsibility.

Typical responses from people who breed dog’s indiscriminately and cannot, or refuse to take responsibility and do what is necessary to maintain the breed standards.

I would bet, that none of you have ever had to kill a puppy or even have the balls to do it. Better to give it away and say “I found it a home”, enabling some back yard breeder to have more puppies. Which is why Animal Shelters all over the world have to deal with your irresponsibility and kill them. Quality of Life, not quantity.



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You keep them all.  If you need to divide the litter into two and do supplement feedings to assist the bitch.  Wean them at 3 weeks.  If they are strong enough to survive, why cull any out!!!

I have never killed a puppy and have no intentions of ever doing so. I have over the years had several put down for issues like mega-e, crippling h/e and a couple of times for very poor character.

I have never considered this to be due to my lack of "balls". It is just not in me to do it. What makes me chuckle is that someone would consider this to be any indication of manhood.

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Rik

 Well, Rik, I hate to break it to ya, buddy, but you are apparently not even a man, let alone a pirate! Don't feel bad, friend; you can hang out with me in the Indiscriminate Breeders Who Won't Take Responsibility Club. 

In all seriousness, I fail to see the logic in killing puppies simply due to number, which is what started this ridiculous thread in the first place. PL posted this on Hans' forum and then when he didn't get the support he expected, asked to have it removed. LOL.  When my bitch (who is an excellent producer and mother) has ten healthy, strong pups and receives ZERO help from me until weaning, why would I kill them??? Isn't that what we're striving for? Strong pups w/out human intervention? So isn't it a tad counterproductive to select strong pups for killing? I know I'm just a dumb girl but I need some help to understand this. 

I think anyone producing enough puppies that have to be culled needs to seriously re-evaluate their selection criteria. 

You are so right Jenni.

My first GSD was from a litter of ten healthy big boned pups.  The mother needed no help and she repeated that feat 4 times.  Brandy was a great big beautiful bitch, a clone of her father David Nebelholz (Don Rolandsteich son).  My boy was a huge, hunky, athletic replica except for his tall ears.  He lived to be 13.  He was blessed genetically.

Michele

Don vom Rolandsteich

Looks like some culling needs to be done other than pups from the litter!                            

My process for deciding which puppies get to take a dirt nap go like this.

eenie meenie minie mo my momma told me to pick the very best one and you (little puppy) are not it. 

This is a far more scientific method than the one PL uses. 

 

Regarding the concept that the hunting and sporting dog breeders who kill all but one or two pups from a litter are doing the 'right' thing, because one doesn't see many dogs of those breeds in shelters:

Bullhonkery.

If you don't live in an area where there are a large number of sporting and hunting breed owners, than you probably won't see a large number of them in shelters...the breed rescue groups do a good job of getting them out of the shelters fast in those areas.  In areas such as where I live, however, the majority of the dogs in the local shelters ARE hunting or sporting breeds--lots of Beagles, several German Shorthaired Pointers, an assortment of Brittanys and English Springers...  Most of those weren't turned in to the shelters by their owners, though--they were just dumped in the woods, and someone else found them and took them to the shelter.  So perhaps if you where you live, you're not seeing many dogs of these breeds in shelters, it because they're being dumped in the woods as well...and aren't fortunate enough to be found by someone with an ounce of compassion before they get hit by a car, killed by coyotes or starve to death.

There's never a moral justification to mortal culling for convenience's sake--if the pup is healthy, it should be permitted to live.  If you're going to claim that mortal culling is ethical because it reduces the number of dogs being euthanized in shelters, then I suggest you stop breeding YOUR animals entirely, and there will be that many less dogs in the world as well.

 Excellent last paragraph, Hexe. 

SSG, LOL.