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by GSD Admin on 05 June 2011 - 15:06
No one has a split personality. There are 6 of us, but some are only here once in awhile.
We are allowed to have 2 user names, because remember the big uproar if we happen to comment with our mod identity. I do, Oskar1 still has not comeback over all that went on with a moderator offering her/his opinions.
It was another of those huge member uprisings, because mods are (in all your eyes) supposed to be perfect.
We are volunteers and now we are not allowed to speak what we see as a regular member, because ex-mods had to talk about things they had no right talking about.
I have the pm that Oli sent asking us to keep not only our identities secret, but to respect the privacy of the other mods and that clearly has not happened at least twice and maybe more often as I lose track of the mods and ex-mods who love to talk and break agreements with Oli and this site.
We are allowed to have 2 user names, because remember the big uproar if we happen to comment with our mod identity. I do, Oskar1 still has not comeback over all that went on with a moderator offering her/his opinions.
It was another of those huge member uprisings, because mods are (in all your eyes) supposed to be perfect.
We are volunteers and now we are not allowed to speak what we see as a regular member, because ex-mods had to talk about things they had no right talking about.
I have the pm that Oli sent asking us to keep not only our identities secret, but to respect the privacy of the other mods and that clearly has not happened at least twice and maybe more often as I lose track of the mods and ex-mods who love to talk and break agreements with Oli and this site.
by Ninja181 on 05 June 2011 - 15:06
So let me see if I got this right.
Hodie is BANNED because of what she MIGHT say?
Well what she might say is just who banned her, why, and actually be allowed to tell her opinion of the other half of the story.
She also might be able to tell us the other respected posters who witnessed this episode and what really took place. She might be able to touch on all the posts that also seemed to disappear surrounding this very incident. She might be able to tell us why certain witnesses are afraid to speak up. We wouldn't want to hear from them, would we.
Would the IRS take her house because she MIGHT not pay her taxes?
Would the Police put her in jail because she Might commit a crime?
Had hodie not been banned we might have heard that she chastised old SP for posting shit (privately of course at first) Then when she chastised him right as he posted it, well it somehow got deleted. And of course after 3 or 4 deletions PRESTO Miss Hodie was Banned. End of story. That's what Miss Hodie told me.
By the way it was Hodie who banned Janice Bartmess from this site.
Also when Hodie was a Mod there where no RULES for Mods.
Hodie is BANNED because of what she MIGHT say?
Well what she might say is just who banned her, why, and actually be allowed to tell her opinion of the other half of the story.
She also might be able to tell us the other respected posters who witnessed this episode and what really took place. She might be able to touch on all the posts that also seemed to disappear surrounding this very incident. She might be able to tell us why certain witnesses are afraid to speak up. We wouldn't want to hear from them, would we.
Would the IRS take her house because she MIGHT not pay her taxes?
Would the Police put her in jail because she Might commit a crime?
Had hodie not been banned we might have heard that she chastised old SP for posting shit (privately of course at first) Then when she chastised him right as he posted it, well it somehow got deleted. And of course after 3 or 4 deletions PRESTO Miss Hodie was Banned. End of story. That's what Miss Hodie told me.
By the way it was Hodie who banned Janice Bartmess from this site.
Also when Hodie was a Mod there where no RULES for Mods.
by GSD Admin on 05 June 2011 - 15:06
Right because she had an agreement with Oli to keep mods identities secret or should we just let mods spew out information they learn as a mod?
Ninja you are hearing one side of the story and according to Hodie she didn't quit, well I posted the link to where she walked out and then to take the info she learned and use that info to dispurt the forum was wrong.
I have offered to unban her and she said no. What do you want me to do, beg her?
SHE BROKE WHAT OLI ASKED US ALL NOT TO DO.
I have no problem posting said pm, but really why should I, Oli knows what happened and that is all that matters.
So, according to you she should be allowed to break one of Oli's rules, one she pushed so hard to be put in place, keeping the mods identities secret was pushed by Hodie big time, but somehow after she quit as a mod that went out the window. Imagine that.
Let's get into this starting problems stuff, at least I did not make up a new name to start problems unlike Hodie, who used a second user name to stir stuff up, but again I bet you feel that one is okay. Hypocrites.
I am not quitting and I am not being removed, better regroup and try again.
Ninja you are hearing one side of the story and according to Hodie she didn't quit, well I posted the link to where she walked out and then to take the info she learned and use that info to dispurt the forum was wrong.
I have offered to unban her and she said no. What do you want me to do, beg her?
SHE BROKE WHAT OLI ASKED US ALL NOT TO DO.
I have no problem posting said pm, but really why should I, Oli knows what happened and that is all that matters.
So, according to you she should be allowed to break one of Oli's rules, one she pushed so hard to be put in place, keeping the mods identities secret was pushed by Hodie big time, but somehow after she quit as a mod that went out the window. Imagine that.
Let's get into this starting problems stuff, at least I did not make up a new name to start problems unlike Hodie, who used a second user name to stir stuff up, but again I bet you feel that one is okay. Hypocrites.
I am not quitting and I am not being removed, better regroup and try again.
by zmoderator on 05 June 2011 - 15:06
No, Ninja, you don't have it right. You have Hodie's version of events. Usually when we look at events from a distance and objectively, we discover there are always many different sides to a story.
Many people were responsible and deserve credit for getting Janice banned, and Hodie was only one of them, the fact is she deserves no more and no less credit than many others who have gone unnamed.
Hodie was not at her best as a moderator, despite what she tells you, the fact is she had this place in an uproar, with too much editing/censoring of members posts, inserting herself where it wasn't necessary, banning people for minor infractions, etc.. Anyway, that's neither here nor there, not everybody is cut out to do everything.
Hodie was banned for what she said. She was told not to post privileged information she obtained as a moderator, but she did it anyway, and that got her banned. As GSD has said on this board a number of times, if Hodie wishes to once more join this board as a member, she needs to contact GSD.
Many people were responsible and deserve credit for getting Janice banned, and Hodie was only one of them, the fact is she deserves no more and no less credit than many others who have gone unnamed.
Hodie was not at her best as a moderator, despite what she tells you, the fact is she had this place in an uproar, with too much editing/censoring of members posts, inserting herself where it wasn't necessary, banning people for minor infractions, etc.. Anyway, that's neither here nor there, not everybody is cut out to do everything.
Hodie was banned for what she said. She was told not to post privileged information she obtained as a moderator, but she did it anyway, and that got her banned. As GSD has said on this board a number of times, if Hodie wishes to once more join this board as a member, she needs to contact GSD.
by GSD Admin on 05 June 2011 - 16:06
Okay, I allowed you guys to have your say and now it is time to move on.
If you have any further questions/comments please take them to pm's.
If you have any further questions/comments please take them to pm's.
by mrdarcy on 05 June 2011 - 16:06
BEETREE......Hi there, mrdarcy here, 1 of a team of 6 excellent moderators. Please feel free to PM me, as per forum rules, any questions you may have. This of course applies to all the membership, but since you were concerned about the amount of mods I thought I would help put your mind at ease.
Thank you. mrdarcy (mod)
Thank you. mrdarcy (mod)
by Ninja181 on 05 June 2011 - 16:06
Right because she had an agreement with Oli to keep mods identities secret or should we just let mods spew out information they learn as a mod?
You BANNED her, she was banned after telling you to KNOCK IT OFF. How can anyone justify banning her for correcting your short comings?
Ninja you are hearingh one side of the story and according to Hodie she didn't quit well I posted the link to were she walked out and then to take the info she learned and use that info to dispurt the forum was wrong.
No I have heard your side and her side. The members here have only heard your side. This forum is about the members isn't it.
I have offered to unban her and she said no. What do you want me to do beg her.
She never asked to be unbanned. Who the hell in their right mind would want to be unbanned with you running the show after the way you treated her?
SHE BROKE WHAT OLI ASKED US ALL NOT TO DO.
According to her there were no mod rules. And evidently you broke the TOS rules or she wouldn't have called you out as a poster. Also you deleted those post so no one can presently see them.
I have no problem posting said pm, but really why should I, Oli knows what happened and that is all that matters.
Really, does he know about all those posts you deleted? Does he know about all those strange phone calls you made to her? Better yet does he even want to get involved in a pissing contest. Something you are always involved in on this board.
So, according to you she should be allowed to break one of Oli's rules, one she pushed so hard to be put in place, keeping the mods identities secret was pushed by Hodie big time, but somehow after she quit as a mod that went out the window. Imagine that.
I think she didn't want a mod harrasing people as a poster and also being a mod (just a guess). Can't really answer that. But remember she said when she was a Mod THERE were NO rules.
Let's get into this starting problems stuff, at least I did not make up a new name to start problems unlike Hodie, who used a second user name to stir stuff up, but again I bet you feel that one is okay. Hypocrites.
I'm glad you brought this up. I've got several PMs from people that claim new posters are PMing them asking their opinion on certain posters. then these new posters disappear. I got one myself. Then all of a sudden people like you are claiming to know what is in PMs. If I thought I could trust anyone in Admin I'd want them to look at the IP addresses and see who it is. But it is apparent to me that the mods don't want to check up on the other mods. Dead issue!
I am not quitting and I am not being removed, better regroup and try again.
I don't give a rat's ass what you do. LOL
I'm just thrilled that everyone now knows that SP is playing both sides of the fence. I suggest you re-group as SP, because posts like you direc
You BANNED her, she was banned after telling you to KNOCK IT OFF. How can anyone justify banning her for correcting your short comings?
Ninja you are hearingh one side of the story and according to Hodie she didn't quit well I posted the link to were she walked out and then to take the info she learned and use that info to dispurt the forum was wrong.
No I have heard your side and her side. The members here have only heard your side. This forum is about the members isn't it.
I have offered to unban her and she said no. What do you want me to do beg her.
She never asked to be unbanned. Who the hell in their right mind would want to be unbanned with you running the show after the way you treated her?
SHE BROKE WHAT OLI ASKED US ALL NOT TO DO.
According to her there were no mod rules. And evidently you broke the TOS rules or she wouldn't have called you out as a poster. Also you deleted those post so no one can presently see them.
I have no problem posting said pm, but really why should I, Oli knows what happened and that is all that matters.
Really, does he know about all those posts you deleted? Does he know about all those strange phone calls you made to her? Better yet does he even want to get involved in a pissing contest. Something you are always involved in on this board.
So, according to you she should be allowed to break one of Oli's rules, one she pushed so hard to be put in place, keeping the mods identities secret was pushed by Hodie big time, but somehow after she quit as a mod that went out the window. Imagine that.
I think she didn't want a mod harrasing people as a poster and also being a mod (just a guess). Can't really answer that. But remember she said when she was a Mod THERE were NO rules.
Let's get into this starting problems stuff, at least I did not make up a new name to start problems unlike Hodie, who used a second user name to stir stuff up, but again I bet you feel that one is okay. Hypocrites.
I'm glad you brought this up. I've got several PMs from people that claim new posters are PMing them asking their opinion on certain posters. then these new posters disappear. I got one myself. Then all of a sudden people like you are claiming to know what is in PMs. If I thought I could trust anyone in Admin I'd want them to look at the IP addresses and see who it is. But it is apparent to me that the mods don't want to check up on the other mods. Dead issue!
I am not quitting and I am not being removed, better regroup and try again.
I don't give a rat's ass what you do. LOL
I'm just thrilled that everyone now knows that SP is playing both sides of the fence. I suggest you re-group as SP, because posts like you direc
by GSD Admin on 05 June 2011 - 16:06
I am done with this.
Here is Oli's pm.
"Hi to all moderators
You don't know each other and thats probably how many of you want to have it.
A few have been added now lately and I will be programming a way for you to communicate incommuicado
preferably by selecting a "moderator username"
I will let you know when I have programmed the stuff,. could take a few days/weeks.
The moderators I have selelcted are well respected in the field and want their privacy, so try to respect that even between yourselves
Oli"
Who is telling the truth?
I have asked you to take this to pm and you refuse. I am locking the thread.
According to, according to, according to, to who a disgruntled exmod/member?
FYI, do not believe all you hear from people who have an axe to grind. Any more lies you want me to set straight? BTW, Hodie never said anything to me in private or unless you mean her tirade at me.
One last thing super sleuth, I made those calls at Oli's asking. She knows that as I left her messages and sent her email's saying the exact same thing.
Here is Oli's pm.
"Hi to all moderators
You don't know each other and thats probably how many of you want to have it.
A few have been added now lately and I will be programming a way for you to communicate incommuicado
preferably by selecting a "moderator username"
I will let you know when I have programmed the stuff,. could take a few days/weeks.
The moderators I have selelcted are well respected in the field and want their privacy, so try to respect that even between yourselves
Oli"
Who is telling the truth?
I have asked you to take this to pm and you refuse. I am locking the thread.
According to, according to, according to, to who a disgruntled exmod/member?
FYI, do not believe all you hear from people who have an axe to grind. Any more lies you want me to set straight? BTW, Hodie never said anything to me in private or unless you mean her tirade at me.
One last thing super sleuth, I made those calls at Oli's asking. She knows that as I left her messages and sent her email's saying the exact same thing.
by Slamdunc on 05 June 2011 - 16:06
I must say there are some very good points brought out on this thread. I do not agree with mods having multiple identities and using their user names to insult members then switching back to a mod to close a thread or get the last word in. If you want to be a mod great, if you want the ability to offer some insight and beneficial information to the forum as a member great. Don't use a user name for personal attacks and little else. GSD mod, you are a fine mod and doing a good job as a mod. However, you can be rather relentless in your member personna. I would expect mods to be held to a higher standard as both a mod and a user. For those of us that have been here a while it is not difficult to figure out who the mods are.
My suggestion would be that the mods do not act any differently as a member as they would as a mod. Hold yourself to a higher standard when posting as a member and stay above the fray. It is really inappropriate to switch identities to which ever one serves you best in the same thread. If you want to participate in a thread as a member and voice your opinion don't jump in later as a mod on the same thread.
JMO FWIW,
Jim
My suggestion would be that the mods do not act any differently as a member as they would as a mod. Hold yourself to a higher standard when posting as a member and stay above the fray. It is really inappropriate to switch identities to which ever one serves you best in the same thread. If you want to participate in a thread as a member and voice your opinion don't jump in later as a mod on the same thread.
JMO FWIW,
Jim
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