Difference in stacks - Page 3

When you applied the pressure on hip in last pic, the hock was further pushed backwards and the hock now is not perpendicular to the floor which is a must for a correct stack and judge would notice that.
No matter how you stack that dog he would look beautiful because he is, even in a natural stack he looks good if not even better.

Ibrahim

Can critique him in the natural stack?

Ibrahim

Of course Ibrahim !

From the picture, (and please keep in mind that seeing a dog on site enables a more precise evaluation):
Good type, medium size,  good proportions and nice balance, nice head of good proportions and parallel planes, nice ear carriage, nice neck which blends nicely into its body, high withers but slightly short, beautiful  straight and slightly sloping back, very good lay of a slightly short croup and good lay of tailset, tail is good.
Good chest front development but can be better, good chest depth, under chest is slightly short and loin is slightly long, good front angulation allover, front upper arm is slightly short, shoulder blade is slightly forward which  shortens the withers though still high, nice front arms, good pasterns of good angle,  feet and toes are not very clear to me.
Nice rear angulation, stifle angle can be a little more, very good strong hocks of good length. I like this dog, when you look at him as a package he’s really nice looking, nothing is exaggerated in him and nothing looks out of balance. Enjoy him.
 
Ibrahim

I had only inteded to get criques of his stack; but thanks for writing a structural critique, Ibrahim.

I like natural stacks better.  I kind of wish hand stacking was not allowed at shows.

On another thread, someone mentioned you can teach a dog to stack with lowered hips without pushing on them.  Is that true?

I will pass on this question, I don't know, maybe some one will give us tips on stacking and maybe teach us some nice tricks, lol

Ibrahim

mfh27

The lowered hips is an artifcial way to get the same thing that I like to call "leaning into" the stack.

When my dogs are alerting on something and getting ready to bark, they will stand in a natural stack and lean into it before they begin barking or running forwards.

This is the same thing I try to replicate in stacking my dogs. I will stack them out, they look all lazy, but when I bring out a favorite toy they lean into the stack but stay there and then they look their best.


I wonder if this is what you were talking about?

I can make my little bitch look all sorts of ways, depending on how I stack her

Here she is at 9 months old, completely freestacked.  I didn't touch her.  I told my husband to get the camera, and I backed out of the way


Here's the same girl in March of this year, yet again free stacked:


And here are a couple pictures of me setting her up myself:

at one time, Andrew Masia (Jagenstadt) posted a very good tutorial on stacking. can't find it now but maybe someone can and put up a link to it.

xeph, I of course do not know anything about stacks I'm just learning but I think my favorite out of the pics you posted was the last one.  Schaef I also like the ones where the dog is leaning in, to me it at least for the gsds it does make them appear more alert like you said and less lazy.  Rik that tutorial would be great to watch, Ibrahim is usually the one that in my experience can find pretty much anybody asks and post it.   So Ibrahim have you heard of that video? Think maybe you could find it for us newbies to watch??