A discussion on kennel blindness - Page 14

Yes, and then he busted his teeth, esentially making him worthless, as well as the EPI showed up. Isn't that great ? 

Nothing like having a very nice dog with incredible work ethic and he is worthless for breeding. Hell, people are not even interested in him anymore because of the genetic problems.

Time for a replacement.

Ya Know,
Since I live in Montana and have met Hutch personally....and no I have NEVER gotten any of Daryl's dogs into rescue....
I am NOT going to get involved in this bashing of anyone on this thread, or take sides, BUT, in defense of Jeff O's comment's on seeing Hutch work and Daryl's dog Hutch actually working, I HAVE SEEN HIM WORK, TRACKING, SEARCHING, FINDING, RETRIEVING, BITING THE SLEEVE, AND HE IS ONE OF THE HARDEST HITTING DOGS I have seen, HE HAS A GOOD DEEP BITE, he has a good out, HE SEARCHES UNTIL HE FINDS, WHICH IS FAIRLY FAST, fantastic nose on him,  he isn't distracted by outside influences while working,  he doesn't quit, and he is a good companion, he can ride alongside you in the vehicle friendly, but ready to protect if needed.... He is easily worked by a novice, ME!!!!. But he is a strong dog. He quiets down when not needed, I honestly LIKED, this dogs working ethics....

Now, I have had in alot of IDIOT rescues, alot of GOOD rescues, I have one retired Police K9 myself, that the other cops called Satan, taken in several others and rehomed, several Malinois' and own 1 Malinois, and I am impressed by Hutch's work ethics....
JUST FYI, Steph
I know this is OFF TOPIC, but so is most of this thread!!!!

They do not want to hear that, they have already decided that Daryls dog is unworthy, and now, even the repeaters are saying it. But of course, none of them have seen the dog, and since I am on the list, me saying it means nothing to the internet wonder trainers. HA HA

Have you seen the new pups ??

Actually KrazyaboutK9's, I was one that didn't bash
Daryl's dogs, I find serious flaw in his breeding ethics.
I don't feel it is fair to ever speak poorly of another's
dogs. Nothing good can come from tearing apart the
asthetics of anothers dogs.

As someone who is so heavily involved in rescue, how
do YOU feel about his breeding practices?
Was that you that bred to Hutch with the showline female?
I ask because I recieved a PM from someone that stated
you in fact paid to have Hutch AKC registered.
I find it odd you have come to this very board and
bashed other kennels for the very same thing Daryl
has done over the years-breed untitled &
non-health tested dogs.

KrazyaboutK9's, since you state the dog can do so
well in all these scenarios,particularily in bitework,
can I ask, how many dogs have you worked in bitework
to be able to make this conclusion? The reason I ask is,
I have seen novice's be blown away by a frontal bite
from a showline dog, and call it 'crushing' etc.

He may very well be a nice dog, but no one within
any recognized working dog sport will know since
the dog is never showcased/presented at any event.

You may also find that once the dog is brought out into
the spotlight he will fall apart.
Can the dog remain focused and driven while working
when a crowd of spectators is present?
How will he handle the travelling, being followed
to the scentpad by 20+ people? How about obedience?
Can he maintain drive and still be correct in his work?
Can he does this without repetitive commands and
also NO praise? How will the dog handle the stress
travelling down the leash from the handler?
These are all things that come to the surface when
one trials a dog.
 
I'm sure Hutch is a wonderful pet/companion.
I don't think anyone ever said anything to the contrary.

By the way Daryl, the SV does not require a dog to be Koered
before being bred, but it does require the dog be titled and xrayed.

Daryl, didn't you at one point also state on Jacques old DDR board
that your DDR bitch was too soft, a dissapointment etc, but
it seems you didn't mind breeding her either:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=457733
It's not surprising I could not find her in the OFA database either.
Is she the one that produced the dog aggressive pup that killed
her littermate? I was told you lost a young dog to that very scenario.

Maybe this is a good example of kennel blindness

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/classifieds/154322.html

This site is classifieds blind, just joking, lol.

Ibrahiml

I did NOT approve of the breeding with Afra, she IS soft and a disappointment to me, but nonetheless she produced a reasonably nice litter, with no sibling aggression. Hutch was initially AKC registered under my ex wife's name, until about a year ago. I have no interest in impressing you or anyone else here over Hutch. I quite frankly don't care if he meets anyone's approval or not, I'm going to breed as I see fit. To the annoyance of many, appearantly :-) Sorry that registration and titles don't impress me as much as they do yourself.

Breeding showlines is COMPLETE kennel blindness. When I meet a nice dog I never wonder how or where it was bred or if it has papers. Either it's a good dog or it's not, the dog either works or doesn't. Titles mean squat if the dog you're looking at is a good dog.. If Darryl had a puppy that was insane for the ball and wouldn't get off my ankles I'd buy the pup, if I was looking for a dog, lol

Titles mean squat, OFA means squat, X rays and health tests mean squat, AKC or SV registration means squat as long as the pup chases a ball like crazy and bites your ankles?  I can find you tons of those dogs at any shelter.  I like to consider a little more than ball drive and ankle biting when considering my next GSD.  You may feel differently and have to do what works for you; picking a puppy is a very personal choice. 

I owned an asymptomatic dysplastic dog that could run and jump at 9 years old like a young dog.  That dog had virtually no left hip socket, was x rayed (that is how I found out) but made a great pet and was never bred.  That is why it is critical that breeders x ray their breeding stock to eliminate dogs like that one, that do not show the obvious signs of dysplasia for example. 

atc237, I disagree with your first sentence.

Slamdunc, I figured (hoped) there would be dog people that would understand what I meant. Blitzen, we'll have to agree to disagree.