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by clc29 on 11 March 2012 - 04:03
Mike....LOL
Shelly and Yellow Rose...I don't think Daryl started this thread to bash anyone...so why not contribute something constructive instead of being snotty.
I'm not a breeder, but I could interpret kennel blindness to mean several things......
1. A person buying from a big name kennel (and paying a lot more) vs. looking at a smaller equally nice breeder because of the kennel name.
2. A judge placing an undeserving dog higher because of it's kennel name (trying to curry favor or playing the buddy game).
3. What Brynjulf said, a breeder overlooking obvious faults in their breeding program, yet still believing they have the best breeding program.
4. A breeder trying to keep up with the current style/fad by buying and breeding to the hottest dogs at the time without giving any thought to whether those dogs will improve the breeders breeding stock or the breed in general.
Anyway, just my opinion for what it's worth.
Cheri
Shelly and Yellow Rose...I don't think Daryl started this thread to bash anyone...so why not contribute something constructive instead of being snotty.
I'm not a breeder, but I could interpret kennel blindness to mean several things......
1. A person buying from a big name kennel (and paying a lot more) vs. looking at a smaller equally nice breeder because of the kennel name.
2. A judge placing an undeserving dog higher because of it's kennel name (trying to curry favor or playing the buddy game).
3. What Brynjulf said, a breeder overlooking obvious faults in their breeding program, yet still believing they have the best breeding program.
4. A breeder trying to keep up with the current style/fad by buying and breeding to the hottest dogs at the time without giving any thought to whether those dogs will improve the breeders breeding stock or the breed in general.
Anyway, just my opinion for what it's worth.
Cheri
by oregontnt2007 on 11 March 2012 - 04:03
well said Cheri....
I like #4 really I like them all. :)
I like #4 really I like them all. :)
by Ace952 on 11 March 2012 - 05:03
When I think of kennel blindness, I think more of someone havign a narrow view and only seeing a certain kennel(s) producing dogs that they like and refuse to look at any others. They think that only this one or two kennels can produce quality dogs and all other kennels don't know what they are doing. They see only the good and don't acknowledge the bad. This could also be for breeders who look at their own kennels and don't acknowledge where they need improvement and think that if a dog ends up not being good, it was the owners fault and never the breeding that may have been flawed in some aspect.
by darylehret on 11 March 2012 - 06:03
Wow, a couple MORE possible meanings, all of which sound pretty good. Do they use the term at all in europe, and if so, how is it most frequently used?
by oregontnt2007 on 11 March 2012 - 06:03
OK, how about this one,
lack of self preservation by not keeping up with the Jone's in quality bloodline's with great stock that lacks there of DNA/OFA testing, title's, poor husbandry, compititon result's, connection's and/or customer service?
is that a shade of grey or am I close casue this can go in so many direction.....
thow us all bone there < lol, no pun intened >
dude this is killing me, spill it already... LOL!
is that a shade of grey or am I close casue this can go in so many direction.....
thow us all bone there < lol, no pun intened >
dude this is killing me, spill it already... LOL!
by darylehret on 11 March 2012 - 07:03
You misunderstand my intent. I'm curious to know myself. Looks to me like there are a lot of various ideas about what it is, and wondering if there's something solid that everyone agrees on.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 11 March 2012 - 08:03
There are three kinds I think.
One, I think is some people just cannot see faults, sometimes it is ego, sometimes they just cannot see the trees for the forest.
Two, some people can only buy from winners, big names/lines
Three, some have to see titles on every dog, as they have no ability to judge the quality of a pup.
One, I think is some people just cannot see faults, sometimes it is ego, sometimes they just cannot see the trees for the forest.
Two, some people can only buy from winners, big names/lines
Three, some have to see titles on every dog, as they have no ability to judge the quality of a pup.
by Rass on 11 March 2012 - 11:03
I believe it depends on your point of view.
1.) Kennel blind kennel Breeder/Owner: Cannot recognize weakness in their own lines and breeding program that they may have taken years to develop. Weakness can be either temperament or structure. Weakness is seen by the kennel owner as a "fluke." Can become so bad that they do not require breeding dogs to be health tested or titled or doing real work.
2.) Kennel blind Judge: Places dogs better because of the association with a kennel Name... and the dog cannot be that bad because it came from <XYZ> Big Name Kennel and the dog is having an "off" day.
3.) Kennel Blind buyers/Breeders: Must breed to that <insert big name dog> without a thought to what genes they are tossing together.
1.) Kennel blind kennel Breeder/Owner: Cannot recognize weakness in their own lines and breeding program that they may have taken years to develop. Weakness can be either temperament or structure. Weakness is seen by the kennel owner as a "fluke." Can become so bad that they do not require breeding dogs to be health tested or titled or doing real work.
2.) Kennel blind Judge: Places dogs better because of the association with a kennel Name... and the dog cannot be that bad because it came from <XYZ> Big Name Kennel and the dog is having an "off" day.
3.) Kennel Blind buyers/Breeders: Must breed to that <insert big name dog> without a thought to what genes they are tossing together.
by Blitzen on 11 March 2012 - 15:03
by eichenluft on 11 March 2012 - 16:03
A breeder who believes that it is ok and right and acceptable to breed their dogs because they love them, think highly of them, or admire them for whatever reason they have - despite the facts that the dogs are NOT titled or proven to be able to be titled, health tested or proven to be healthy by testing/x-rays; not of breedworthy temperament or conformation except in their own eyes - this is "kennel blindness" or "tunnel vision". Breeders who breed father/daughter or brother/sister breedings of same untitled, non-health or temperament tested dogs because they can, and/or because they believe they know better than any judge, trial judge or trainer/evaluator would know. A very good example of this sort of breeder started this thread.
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