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by Gwenith on 09 April 2012 - 23:04

I'm am very curious why so many people seem to have blindly embraced the DM DNA test that Dr. Coates has. It makes little sense to me knowing ALL the failures of our own FDA for humans. Constantly medications and devices are pulled form the shelves. And yet Coates and her team can do no wrong in the AKC dog world. I find this mind boggling at best. And then not one new publication since 2009. Not zip about the 2 carrier GSD's that have come back with confirmed DM. Oh, BTW, has anyone read it is highly unlikely a carrier will have DM. How many more out there that their owners didn't have the ability to necropsy? Or lived in some remote area where necropsy of spinal tissue not available? I live in Austin, Texas. And have written to Dr. Liz Hansen on the team pleading for a name of a Vet in my area that will be able to confirm DM after my beloved Blade goes to the bridge. Thus far not a single reply back. And a patent on this test? A patent means money is involved. When money is involved there is almost always corruption as well. Having lived through DePuy ARS recall and having to have revision surgery I know all to well about corruption, money and how the system often doesn't work for innocent victims. Our breeds and dogs are suffering at the hands of this research. If they have nothing to hide why doesn't their web page include the 2 "carrier" GSD's confirmed with DM and now a possible "clear" GSD with confirmed DM. The Univ. of Missouri should include ALL new findings like this. Either quarterly or at least every 6 months. Obviously they have something to conceal, IMO. Gwen

by Blitzen on 10 April 2012 - 00:04

The Coates test is optional. Test your dogs, don't test your dogs. Your decision. There are plenty of novices who won't know enough to ask and enough who don't think the test is valid. Ergo, no shortage of buyers for dogs from untested stock. I opted to test my dog and would not buy a dog from  untested parents. Others are free to do as they wish.


 


marjorie

by marjorie on 10 April 2012 - 00:04

 please see http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=169816&pagen=4 scroll down to you get to dsurber post- clear dog, necropsied DM, confirmed by 2 of coates pathologists... so now we have 2 carries and 1 clear that are known about. I have seen no reference to any of these dogs on the U of M webpage in the DM DNA section. Interesting, very interesting... One would think one would be open and honest about the information of which they have been notified, if they really cared about the truth, and not just the patents and the $$$$$$$$. Oh well...actions speak far louder than words, IMHO.

SOD1= 2% change in relation to als... repeat after me... casual or causual, casual, causual.... C'mon- its a whopping 2 % for cripes sake :( That means not present in 98% of the cases. Last but not least, not just *DM*, which is a catch-all phrase  (which all breeds get in one form or another) but specifically, GSDM, aka GERMAN SHEPHERD DM and there is a world of difference between the two.....

Marjorie
http://www.gsdbbr.org The German Shepherd Dog Breed Betterment Registry
BE PROACTIVE!
http://mzjf.com --> The Degenerative Myelopathy Support Group 

 

by Gwenith on 10 April 2012 - 01:04

I agree Majorie! I now find this test deceptive and with an agenda. And the agenda is not in the best interest of dogs. Particularly not GSD's. But if there is a mistake with the GSD, there is mistake with many other highly at risk breeds. Too many people were to quick to embrace a test over genetics. And genetics is the newest kid on the block in medical research. Just another big problem in the makings. Especially with a breed like the GSD with 51 inherited diseases linked to it. Like EPI, SIBO, ventricular arrhythmia, elipepsy and the list goes on and on. Too many to even begin to list. Suffice to say this is a disaster in the making. People will be crying soon. But not nearly soon enough if they can't see the writing on the wall. Concealing is not sometime honest researchers do. And that is precisely what IS occurring. Otherwise the info of the 2 carrier GSD's and the one "clear" would be published for the world to see. But it is not being published it is being hidden. Pretty dishonest the way I see it. And all for $$$$$ and a name! Gwen

by Blitzen on 10 April 2012 - 01:04

This reeks of BS. Test, don't test,  up to you.


marjorie

by marjorie on 10 April 2012 - 01:04

   I am sorry the health of the breed is BS to you. Personally, to me, it wouldnt bother me a whit to purchase a pup from a litter sired or dam(N)ed by at an risk dog. The Test is what is BS! What does it matter if a GSD tests at risk for a type of DM another breed gets, but not ours??? Thats how little faith I have in the test. The at risk status of a GSD tested with the OFA U of M wouldnt bother me a bit- and if Missie T has more time than next week, it will be a miracle.


  

by Gwenith on 10 April 2012 - 01:04

My dog has been tested as "carrier". I plan to have him necropsied. Something I don't want to do. But since this DM DNA test is being so fully embraced I will necropsy. As hard as it will be to consider emotionally. His neurologist that was at TAMU with Dr. Coates said he had DM. His internist says he definately has DM. And now his regular Vet has admitted she feels he has DM. Gwen

Rik

by Rik on 10 April 2012 - 02:04

Let's stop hip certification also. After all, normal dogs can still develop it later in life and can certainly produce it. So what's the use in trying.

Maybe some care enough to use the tools at their disposal, even if not 100% perfect.

Rik

by Nans gsd on 10 April 2012 - 02:04

Well this post reeks of bullshit;  if you have never experienced a dog with DM and it's ravaging deterioration then you are in for such a devastating journey.  I hope you all can  handle it, as it is hell on the dogs.  BOL  Nan

by Blitzen on 10 April 2012 - 02:04

Ditto Rik and Nans. The BS is not about the health of the breed.






 


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