USA BOI findings - Page 4

First, I think there is more to this than has been told and what I have heard. I agree with you on the punishment or more like what punishment!!! It should be the individual in question not the club and he should have the titles stripped for trying to cheat and be banned for a period of time. Why has it taken the USA office so long to act on this matter? One wonders?

["To me it seems that limiting the # of dogs that one handler can handle in a single trial helps ensure that trials do not become private matters, where 1 person with a slew of dogs can privately meet with a judge and title them all....????????? Not to mention the possibility that a pro could monopolize the available spots at a local trial."] A local club has the required minimum members, all own dogs from the one breeder who 'runs' the club or are even breeders 'staff.' Breeder doesn't even pay dues because it is on the breeder's property. They have trials two or three times a year. Most of the entrants are dogs owned by the breeder and handled by the breeder's hired trainer and the judges are friends of this hired trainer. The other slots are filled by the breeder's friends who own dogs bred by said breeder. Then the entries are full and this is supposed to be a public event!! Give me a break. This actually happens.

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***********I was wondering how this ruling will effect the USA Sieger Show in 2007. They are co-hosting it. Am I correct or is this ruling only for trials. Mike************ I heard it was decided the next club to Co host is going to Co Host and moving forward, since this is under investigation.

Dawnmarie. Your statement does not make any sense. OG WestConn has been suspended from holding regional or national events. The question is why the handler, trial secretary and this judge have not yet been reprimanded. Naren

hi Naren Mike asked [b]I was wondering how this ruling will effect the USA Sieger Show in 2007. They are co-hosting it. Am I correct or is this ruling only for trials.[/b] then i answered some of his question that i heard [b]I heard it was decided the next club to Co host is going to Co Host and moving forward, since this is under investigation.[/b] quite clearly as posted, this right now is only under investigation, there is an appeal see below: [b]The evidence presented to the Executive Board proves that a mistake was made by the trial secretary when he erroneously wrote the name Wesconn on the line for the club name on one of the two forms required by WDA, but correctly wrote the full name of the WDA club, Wesconn Schaeferhund Verein, on the second form. The forms are obviously WDA forms. Furthermore, WDA lists no Wesconn or O.G. Wesconn as a WDA member club, but it does list Wesconn Schaeferhund Verein, making it obvious that O.G. Wesconn and Wesconn Schaeferhund Verein are two separate clubs in two different organizations. Therefore, no infraction of USA rules has occurred.[/b] simple mistake on paperwork...no one did something wrong, illegal or forged anything, no handler took in 6 dogs in one event... it was someone who erroneously wrote the incorrect name when filing paperwork, its a common mistake with that club name.. i do it ALL THE TIME... when i am at their WDA show, i never, til recently, thought to call it Wesconn Schaeferhund Verein, i always called it OG Wesconn and when i post photos i have put the wrong name, thats my fault for not paying better attention... i have learned since then :) And now back to your question, there has already been a decision as to who is co hosting the USA Sieger show and they are moving forward...so that is why i posted what i did, cant be any clearer than that :) Looking forward to seeing everyone on the East Coast again in 2007!

"The evidence presented to the Executive Board proves that a mistake was made by the trial secretary when he erroneously wrote the name Wesconn on the line for the club name on one of the two forms required by WDA, but correctly wrote the full name of the WDA club, Wesconn Schaeferhund Verein, on the second form. The forms are obviously WDA forms. Furthermore, WDA lists no Wesconn or O.G. Wesconn as a WDA member club, but it does list Wesconn Schaeferhund Verein, making it obvious that O.G. Wesconn and Wesconn Schaeferhund Verein are two separate clubs in two different organizations. Therefore, no infraction of USA rules has occurred" OK, you totally lost me there. Why are WDA forms being filled out at a USA event??????

Yes, well perhaps six dogs were not presented but the paperwork for six dogs was?????

LaPorte hi, you have to read what the findings state, its very clear to me.. ACCIDENTALLY it sounds like thier WDA papers were sent in to the USA office with the USA papers, for a USA trial ACCIDENTALLY so it APPEARED as tho 6 dogs were taken in when in reality, again this is only MY TAKE on what i am reading.... OG Wesconn is a USA club... Wesconn Schaeferhund Verein is a WDA club... the WDA event had 3 dogs by one handler and it was written on a WDA entry BUT the show person wrote OG Wesconn... follow me... so the paperwork that was supposed to go to WDA was sent in with the USA show BY ACCIDENT and then it "APPEARED" as tho there were 6 dogs with one handler and in reality the person showed 3 dogs at the USA event and 3 dogs for the WDA event... this is how i am interpretting it... so therefore the club did nothing wrong except someone made a MISTAKE and no one did something ILLEGAL, it was just a mistake that i foresee will NEVER happen again... the reason why i am paying such close attention to this because i myself never knew there was a difference... i just assumed their club name was OG WESCONN for both their WDA club and their USA club... i will NEVER make that mistake again seeing how much problem it can cause...

*****Yes, well perhaps six dogs were not presented but the paperwork for six dogs was????? ****** yes mad, thats my take, and how i am reading it...