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Jersey Girl 22

by Jersey Girl 22 on 19 June 2012 - 22:06

i have a question the question is
How do u know who is a great german shepherd breeder and who is not??
i truely would like to know about that bcs when i first bought my dog she was very nice and then she turned out to be mean and she swore up and down that she was a great breeder and everything else that her dogs are OFA certified and all this fony balonie. I dont' know why breeders do this i can't stand breeders that are all about the money rather than the breeed they would rather give u a sick dog for money. I just don't understand that i have loeved german shephrds all my life but now adays alot of breeders are jsut all about the money not about the breed i only know a few that are doing it for the breed and actually guareentee the breed and love their dogs and take good care of them rather than have money. i am truly hurt that that breeder i had gotten my dog from lied and did that to me i really really am. she seemed nice from the start then after i told her all the problems with my shepherd justice that is no longer with me which my whole family was attached too and are now hurting bcs of her not caring non sense and she blames other ppl for her mistakes i really don't get that at all does anyone here understand why ppl do that bcs i would truely like to know i am truely upset and angry about the whole thing i have a broken heart not her she has her dogs and they are healthy i am sure she makes darn sure of that but yet any other person she doesn't care about at all i really can't stand that

by SitasMom on 19 June 2012 - 23:06

#1
"she swore up and down that she was a great breeder"

did you do a "ripoff" search?
did you double check with the OFA database online?
did you do a reference check?
did you check the internet for any of her puppies wining shows, or gaining titles?

as with all business, you must first educate yourself, check and double check everything the seller says.......

want to buy some beach front property in arizona?



trixx

by trixx on 19 June 2012 - 23:06

you are going to find alot of breeders like this one, the best advise i can tell you , is start with a good breeder or friend that have had good expereince. there are some good honest breeders out there, i know of some and i am sure there are others that can  tell you of  some good breeders. always get ref. at the least, a good breeder will always be there for you and yes , they dont breed for the money but more for the breed. where are you located maybe there will be someone that knows of good breeders in your area next time you want to get a pup, i know  where your at , i have also been down that same road.i am  very sorry to hear about this-

macrowe1

by macrowe1 on 19 June 2012 - 23:06

"want to buy some beach front property in Arizona", haha Sita that's hilarious. OP I hate that this has happened to you, but you should definately do all your research before finding a breeder. I've seen this hundreds of times, and from what I've seen, you're on the lucky end. At least you thought she was a good responsible breeder, some just buy a pup from someone with sick, skinny dogs who aren't titled or OFA or Pennhipped, or anything else. Best way to tell is through people who have gotten dogs with them before. Have they been happy with what they've gotten? Are their dogs healthy and not aggressive? Check, double check, and triple check with OFA and SV and AKC for titles. Some just realize that if their dogs are hip scored and titled, they can easily sell puppies for more than what they're worth, so they'll alter this. Welcome to the world of breeders. One reason I wish people had to register as breeders, or get their dogs spayed and neutered. There should be certain requirements, but I guess that would be faked, too.

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 20 June 2012 - 00:06

Aside from the hard time I had reading your post, what all was not reputable about this breeder?  The dog started out nice? But turned mean? Did I read that right? How old was the dog when you got it, and did you socialize it and train it properly? People who lack in training skills and knowledge on dogs often times blame things on the breeder when something goes wronog with the dog mentally.  You said you've had Shepherds all your life? Do you mean growing up as a kid (looking at the 22 on your user name)?   Some dogs do well no matter what, without proper training and socialization, I'm curious as to what all you did though.  We can view the breeder as bad (whoever it is) but it also comes down to doing your own research before getting a dog or pup, and then it comes down to you either continuing to train, starting training/continuing it, and socializing the pup or dog as well, exercising, etc. We also need to know what "you" did or didn't do.  What all health tests/OFA's were done on your dogs parents?  You can verify the claims by looking them up on the OFA website.

macrowe1

by macrowe1 on 20 June 2012 - 00:06

GSDGuy, from what I got the breeder lied about the titling and OFA. As far as temperment, I agree that if they start out nice but turn mean, that's usually not genetics (JMO). But I'd be pissed if I had paid for what I was thinking was coming from good hips and good titling with no temperment issues, and then the whole mess was just lies.

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 20 June 2012 - 01:06

Of course, but hips/elbows and titles can be varified, can they not?

starrchar

by starrchar on 20 June 2012 - 02:06

To clarify, the breeder started out "very nice", while she was selling the pup. When the OP found out her dog had severe HD at one year of age she notified the breeder and the breeder "turned out to be mean". There was nothing wrong with the dog's temperament.

Here is the original thread started by the OP.  http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/bulletins.read?mnr=631353&pagen=2#631503   IMO this breeder took advantage of a novice buyer. It also seems she made false claims about her dogs being OFA certified. According to her contract, which can be viewed online, this breeder owes the OP a replacement pup. From what I understand the breeder is saying that the HD is the OP's fault, so she owes her nothing. Another unscrupulous breeder...

THe above is the reason the OP started this thread- doesn't want to make the same mistake again.


Markobytes

by Markobytes on 20 June 2012 - 02:06

GSDguy08, I think the op meant the breeder started out nice but turned mean. As far as having a hard time reading the post, get used to it, this is how English is going to be written in the near future.
 Jersy Girl 22, Unfortunately there are too many breeders out there who either don't care or don't know themselves how to correctly breed a GSD. Most people here in the U.S don't know what a real GSD is, GSDs have been here so long people just think they know what one is. Educate yourself about the breed, learn about breed surveys, all GSDs are supposed to go through a breed survey administered by a breed judge. Both parents of a litter have to have conformation titles, working tittles, hips and elbows certified, DNA tested, pass a 12 mile endurance test, then are brought to Koermeister who thoroughly evaluates them, GSDs passing this test have a designation of KKL1 or KKL2 after their names. This costs a lot of time and money to the breeder and expect the cost to be passed to you. This does not guarantee nothing will go wrong, but sometimes you get what you pay for. At the very least I would want to see the parents, the father may not be on the site but you should be able to touch the adults while the breeder is present without the dog trying to rip your head off. Temperament is largely genetic and your puppy will grow up to be like the dogs it is descended from. Avoid fearful pups, puppies should want to come and see you. Avoid pups raised in filthy conditions, house training can be almost impossible if the pups get used to living in their own excrement. Do not buy a pup because you feel sorry for it, you are only enabling the breeder to mis-treat more pups. Call the authorities if things don't look right. Take rip-off report with a grain of salt, too many complaints come from inferior local breeders trying to bring down the competition, and for a price real complaints can be hidden.    

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 20 June 2012 - 03:06

Get use to it? Unfortunately I know you're right. It shouldn't be that way though. The youth of America is getting more and more "dumbed down". Not saying this person is dumb by any means, but it's just frustrating trying to "read" so many things people post nowadays.  





 


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