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by ANA on 24 December 2006 - 15:12

I bred 2 of my females to a stud and listed the pupps for sale with the name of the sire and dams. I had someone who knows of the stud in Canada come to my place this morning and bought all pups from both litters. I had to just return a deposit to 3 others who had pups on hold as they agreed to wait because of the situation. I thought the female played the major part in the pupps but these guys were really mainly concerned with the stud. Even so, Why buy the entire litters? Why not just select a few that you want? My partners and I have 4 other bitches which we now plan on breeding all to the stud because he is great and because it is clearly very easy to sell his pupps. I still dont understand why to buy the whole litter.

by eichenluft on 24 December 2006 - 15:12

for resale - your prices must have been low - as a breeder, I never sell more than one puppy to anyone - because anyone getting more than one puppy at the same time is either uneducated to the fact that raising two littermates at the same time is NOT good for either puppy, and one puppy will more than likely end up placed in another home when it doesnt' work out. I always educate people who ask about two puppies, and refuse to sell them any - unless they are willing to listen to my reasoning, if I even sell them one puppy, they will just go out and get a second from another place, which is not in the best interest of my puppy. So I don't personally sell more than one puppy to a person, for any reason. The other reason for buying more than one puppy at the same time, and obviously for buying whole litters - is to sell them for a profit. In this case the breeder has no control of where the puppies go and what kind of homes are found for them. I feel it is my responsibility as the breeder to make sure each puppy goes to the best home possible, where they will live their lives with the best care and companionship from their owners. Period. No other option, for me. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night wondering where my pups ended up - if they are tied to trees or sold to research labratories, or whoever wanted the "biggest and baddest" and kept them in the backyard to impress people. Nope, I would never sell anyone two puppies let alone entire litters - bad idea in my opinion and not in the best interest of the puppies, only for your wallet. molly

by SGBH on 24 December 2006 - 15:12

If you had agreed to sell to 3 other people and had taken their deposit from them, why would you sell their promised puppies to someone else? Maybe I misread the post, but that is what I understood from reading it. Just curious, not making a judgement. Stephen

by Blitzen on 24 December 2006 - 15:12

Umm..... maybe you should have asked this question of the buyer? Puppies sold in litter lots often end up in pet shops or puppymills to be used for future breeding stock. Just what this breed needs more of.

Bob-O

by Bob-O on 24 December 2006 - 15:12

Ana, I tend to agree with Molly on this one. I think the purchaser sees a business opportunity here-not that is always all bad. You may have offered them too cheap (hate that word) and he liked what he saw with your bitch and thinks he can make some money on these puppies, or very possibly select one (1) as a future breeding animal. Now that would be a nice compliment to the quality that you produce. But more likely he could just be a broker, plain and simple, and will merely act as the agent for the sale of these puppies. Personally, I would not do that as I would never have a chance for a personal relationship with the buyer of a puppy. But, to each his own, and I do not mean to be unjustly critical of anyone who acts in the capacity of a broker/importer or sells to one. Although there are several scurillous individuals out there, they are not all bad guys and gals. Bob-O

grimmdog

by grimmdog on 24 December 2006 - 15:12

If I put a deposit on a puppy, and then returned to find my puppy sold, I would never consider you for a puppy again.

by hodie on 24 December 2006 - 15:12

ANA, You are asking this question after you already did it? Where is your sense? Molly and others here are exactly correct. Who knows where these pups will end up. This is a good example of someone breeding and not using their head. As for having taken deposits and then, selling the pups out from under the people who had paid the deposit, I would hope they too would have enough sense to go elsewhere and buy from a knowledgeable breeder and one who gives a damn about their pups.

by Blitzen on 24 December 2006 - 15:12

Right on, Hodie, I'd love to say a lot more about this than I already have. If you read the posts regarding the breeding of one of these litters it's not hard to see this is a person who is a rank novice in the dog world. Who in the first place has 2 litters at the same time when they don't plan to keep even one puppy? More dogs for Petfinder.

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 24 December 2006 - 15:12

I agree with grimmdog.... and the people who had the deposit down, most likely planned the homecoming of the interested pup and worked hard and patiently for the trip home. I'd be mad. Did you tell the deposit placers you sold the dog from under them? Or make up a story?

by eichenluft on 24 December 2006 - 16:12

there are many more "horror" situations all or some of your pups could be headed for - and now that you have sold all of them - you have no say in the matter. How about puppies being sold as bait dogs for Pitbull fight-training? Or, to sickos for food or fur - or to labratories for experiments - or put in the newspaper and sold to anyone who wants a German Shepherd dog for all the wrong reasons - or to puppy mills as breeding machines, kept in cages for the rest of their lives popping out puppies for retail. Or to pet stores where the people make huge profits on selling puppies to the uneducated "spur of the moment" buyer who see the puppy in the window - pup will end up in the shelter or tied in the backyard once the "cuteness" wears off. BIG mistake I think. Live and learn, but unfortunately at the expense of the puppies' futures. I can almost guarantee, when you sell an entire litter to someone, let alone TWO entire litters - they are not going straight to their pre-arranged great perfect homes where someone gives a rip about where they end up - they are going to be sold for profit to anyone who has the money. Terrible thought for me to think about - too bad you didn't care more for the puppies than your pocketbook. molly





 


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