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Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 21 August 2013 - 19:08

gudda, Unless one is psychic, one could not have "expected" a thing about the results..It was prudent and reasonable to have had Prince tested and I appreciate having opinions and insight from people like Hexe, Blitzen and the rest including yourself..:) ...I have no regrets about testing and I am anxious for Dr. Dodds to weigh in with her opinion..The values are like another language to me..lol..I have no idea except to compare them to the normal ranges and anyone can do that..I am interested to see what others have to say about the particulars of the results related to Prince's breed, age ect...

by 1GSD1 on 22 August 2013 - 09:08

Absolutely and that is the key, breed and age and that is what she does. Also ask her about TSH. She will tell you not to bother running it on dogs.

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 22 August 2013 - 10:08

I was unable to upload the file here for some reason so I had to copy and paste it instead...These are the two attachments and the last which I can not upload or copy and paste is a 10 page write up by Royal Canin Dog Food and the scientific needs of the GSD's system..

FINAL REPORT
Doctor Owner
DEANNA
Pet Name
PRINCE
Received
08/21/13
Species
Canine
Breed
German Shepherd
Sex
M
Pet Age
3 Yrs
Reported
08/21/13
Test Requested Result Case Specific General Range Units
Consult
Completed


Dear Deanna: THANK YOU for the Consultation/Donation ! I have reviewed the clinical history and lab
results you sent from MSU testing on 08/15/2013. I have the following comments and suggestion​


1) Despite the ongoing clinical and behavioral episodes since puppyhood, this MSU thyroid profile has
adequate, although sub-optimal levels of thyroid hormone activity, and there were no elevated thyroid
autoantibodies, ruling out autoimmune thyroiditis, TSH is discordant (false negative, a common finding
with this test in dogs vs people) -- see attached;
2) As about 40% of skin and other tissue infections respond non-specifically to thyroxine therapy to
increase skin and hair coat turnover, he should respond metabolically and behaviorally to a 6-8 week trial
course of thyroxine ( e.g. Soloxine) at a modest dose of 0. 1 mg per 15 pounds of optimum weight
given twice daily, at least an hour before or three hours after any foods, supplements or treats containing
calcium or soy, as these foods bind thyroxine and impair it's absorption;
3) As GSDs have unique difestive requirement s , adding pre- and continuing pro -biotics is a good plan as
well as provided a source of FOS (fruto- ) and MOS (mannan- )oligosaccharides. See attsached;
4) Also, as chicken, venison and mutton are considered "hot" pro-inflammatory foods in Chinese medicine,
suggest avoiding them and using neutral or cool meats ( turkey, rabbit, goat, bison, beef, grass fed lamb).
and white colored fish in stead.
Best wishes, Jean​



CANINE TSH IMMUNOASSAY UPDATE

W’ Jean Dodds, DVM
 
 
Hypothyroidism, a failure of the thyroid gland, is the most common hormonal abnormality in dogs, causing a variety of medical problems in many breeds, including hair loss and skin infections.
 
The measurement of serum levels of the pituitary hormone thyrotropin (TSH) has been used as a reliable and sensitive screening test for thyroid glandular insufficiency in human medicine for many years, but the "first generation" assays for canine TSH (cTSH) are missing as many as 1 out of 3 cases of hypothyroidism, resulting in no improvement in diagnostic sensitivity compared to total T4 and freeT4 measurement. Furthermore, the available assays have not been sensitive enough to distinguish low values of cTSH from those in the normal range.
 
The use of cTSH for predicting canine hypothyroidism is further complicated by the fact that about 1/ 3 of thyroid regulation in the dog is controlled through growth hormone [Lee et al, 2001].
 
 
 
 
References
 
 
● Dixon RM, Graham PA, Mooney CT. Serum thyrotropin concentrations: a new diagnostic test for canine hypothyroidism.  Vet Rec  138: 594-595, 1996.
●  Jensen AL, Iversen L, Høier R, et al. Evaluation of an immunoradiometric assay for thyrotropin in serum and plasma samples of dogs with primary hypothyroidism.  J Comp Pathol 114: 339-346, 1996.
●  Iverson L, Jensen AL, Høier R, et al. Biological variation of canine serum thyrotropin (TSH) concentration. Vet Clin Pathol 28:16-19, 1999.
● Lee WM, Diaz-Espineira MM, Mol JA, Rijnberk A, Kooistra HS. Primary hypothyroidism in dogs is associated with elevated GH release.  J  Endocrinol 168:59-66, 2001.
●  Diaz-Espineira MM, J.A. Mol JA, Peeters ME, Pollak YWEA, Iversen L,van Dijk JE, Rijnberk A, Kooistra HS. Assessment of thyroid function in dogs with low plasma thyroxine concentration. J Vet Intern Med 21:25–32, 2007.
● Ferguson D. Recombinant thyrotropin: standard for the next generation of cTSH immunoassays with improved sensitivity, in development .



 
 

by Blitzen on 22 August 2013 - 12:08

Very interesting, thanks for sharing. Do you plan to try the thyroxine?

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 22 August 2013 - 13:08

Blitzen,,Yes, I believe I will..I want to research it a bit and I will have to find a vet that will dispense the prescription,,It can not hurt to do a trial run ...

Thumbs down, Please share your opinions and thoughts,,,I want to hear from you..!!,,

by beetree on 22 August 2013 - 15:08

Is this what she's recommending?
 

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 22 August 2013 - 15:08

You seem more concerned about the thumbs that you do the dog.
Suggestion number four.....what a riot.

Anything but the obvious.

 

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 22 August 2013 - 16:08

Mr "full" Moons,,lol,,I am not concerned about the thumbs just for the sake of the thumbs down,,I want to know WHY the thumbs down..If someone has a concern I want to hear it...That seems simple enough..I won't lose any sleep over it..

The only thing that is obvious IMO is your desire to add nothing constructive or helpful to this thread,, :(

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 22 August 2013 - 16:08

This thread is only a distraction from the original thread which is now the point.
You need to deal with the original issue which I believe to be lifestyle and behavior.

 4) Also, as chicken, venison and mutton are considered "hot" pro-inflammatory foods in Chinese medicine,
suggest avoiding them and using neutral or cool meats ( turkey, rabbit, goat, bison, beef, grass fed lamb).
and white colored fish in stead.

This is total bullshit by the way.
 

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 22 August 2013 - 17:08

Moons FYI,,we are dealing with the behavior and lifestyle as we speak,,As far as what you "think" about what others have spent years studying and researching about nutrition doesn't matter to me..:) Go away Moons!!..you made your point..:) 

Bee,,that is the food, but I don't think she was recommending the food as much as the scientific information it provided...I think...Wish I could post it, but it won't up load..





 


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