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Gigante

by Gigante on 28 October 2013 - 12:10

Puppycide, a feature length documentary that takes a journey with victims of puppycide, the dogs and their owners. From the moment they meet and seal their emotional bonds to the excruciating trauma of loss, we follow the dog owners' battles for justice with police culture and the legal system, both of which treat puppycides as acceptable collateral damage.​



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/10/25/puppycide-doc-cops

 

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 28 October 2013 - 12:10

Hell they do it to people, that doesn't seem to bother anyone....????

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 28 October 2013 - 12:10

Oh, it bothers me, for one -  but that still does not make it
'right' to shoot a dog, esp. one trying to GET AWAY FROM
 YOU, and which is already strung up on a Dog Catcher.
Sick [in the old meaning].


When I say I thank my lucky stars I live in England, where
our police [and others] are less regularly armed, and where
 we do not, as yet, have this 'puppycide' going on, posters
laugh at the idea of our basically unarmed society & police
force.  Well, screw the NRA and the weapons-obsessed
US culture, and yes I'm sorry Moons cos I like you but as
far as the gun-worship goes, screw you and Carlin and the
rest too.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 28 October 2013 - 12:10

You couldn't drag me kicking and screaming to live in the UK..Hundmutter.
What the hell have you been smoking.
Weapons have nothing to do with it, and your country is far from perfect.
I think you are misguided about our culture and I don't know of anyone who (worships guns).
This is a policy issue, behavior, not the machines taking over, and it's not isolated to only one or two countries.

The whole world is becoming a police state, how would you hope to stop such a thing?


No,
it's not right, none of it is.
 

by joanro on 28 October 2013 - 13:10

@ moons, i agree with you.
Well, I guess we know Hundmutter's opinion of us, therefore I won't bother to read any more of her posts.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 28 October 2013 - 13:10

I wouldn't go that far, but the point is it's not a tool, a weapon, that is doing wrong.
It is your fellow man.

by joanro on 28 October 2013 - 14:10

Agree, Moons, it is fellow man doing wrong. What people who don't live in the US don't seem to understand is that worship has nothing to do with most people who choose to own a gun. In most cases it is for self defense when one lives miles from town and it would take a cop too long to be of help in a bad situation. I guess living on an island has it's benefits when it comes to having police within convenient distance for help. When a rabid racoon is trying to get through the fence at my dogs, I shoot it and don't have to wait for assistance from police.

Dogs being shot by overzealous cops is a training problem, not a gun problem.

erin j

by erin j on 28 October 2013 - 14:10

Those incidents need to be dealt with on an individual scale.. You can't say ALL cops are out to kill your dogs.. I know a lot of cops from working in animal control, and having LE family members and friends, who go out of their way to help animals.. We had a LE training facility next to the shelter I worked out of, they used to come over on breaks and play with the dogs, and quite a few adoptions came from them..
 Police officers are humans, and the ones doing things like shooting contained or non threatening animals need to be re-evaluated for their positions and dealt with accordingly.. If they are going to use excessive force on an animal, they shouldn't be in a position of authority like a LEO, because that shows lack of needed skills an officer needs to do that type of job..
That's just crazy to say all LE and citizens shouldn't be armed, because of the asinine behavior of others.. I own plenty of firearms, and wouldn't  harm anything that wasn't a direct threat to my family or critters..
 Besides last I heard, isn't the UK plagued with bout the same crime as anywhere else? Rapes, murders, robberies, gang activities, drugs?

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 28 October 2013 - 14:10

Sure we have our share of violent crime, but we also manage to live in
isolated locations without relying on guns, or at least there may be a
shotgun or two kept, but not all the emphasis on gun collecting, semis,
fairs with a festival atmosphere, folk coming on here showing pics of
their latest aquisition and what they had to pay for it, and on and on and
on ...  So I think that's what I was reacting against  and regarding as
'worship' of the gun.      I don't normally comment on many of these
weapon-usage threds, its not as though I continually regale you all with
my pacifist beliefs, is it ?  

BUT this particular video made me see red;  normally I'd agree to an
extent with the last cop on the vid who was talking about the equal
share of responsibility dog owners bear for ensuring they have their
animals under control  -  however, he was not making any apology
for those cases quoted where there'd been a bashing in of front doors
at some unearthly hour of the am, a dog had been shot - and the LEOs
had the wrong address !   You would not criticise a dog or owner if
the dog was loose in its own living room and barked, but the people
smashing into the house had been burglars rather than policemen ?

And what exactly are your Police services / Homeland Security (?)
officials DOING to combat these increasing cases of officers who are
proving themselves "needing re-evaluation" ?   Not much info about on
that, as I understand it.

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 28 October 2013 - 15:10

It would be SO easy to teach LEOs to understand basic dog body language! Surely they are taught how to evaluate the threat level when facing a criminal, what signs to look for that warn them the guy may be going to become violent? Surely they can be taught to differentiate between a dog approaching submissively, and one that is going to bite?

The really scary part is the number of these incidents that involved the police going to the wrong address. What if they had shot the homeowners, and NOT their dogs? Yup, it happens!

As for the officers that shot the dogs that already had a dog catcher's noose around their necks? NO excuse for that. Absolutely NONE!

If police came to my home my first thought would be for my dogs. They bark at the door the way any good dog is supposed to, but are otherwise harmless. Any officer that did not allow me time to put them safely away would be in a great deal of trouble, and if an officer pulled his gun on the dogs, well, he'd have to be willing to shoot me first!

My dogs mean that much to me.





 


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