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I don't disagree that it's easier to finish a GSD or any AKC breed now because there are fewer dogs exhibited at each show so the number needed for majors is way down. For GSD's that means that in the southern area where I Iive defeating less than 10 of either sex is a 3 pt major where it used to take over 25 for a  3 pt major.  Anyway what does that have to bo with the topic other than it might be a positive for the GSDCA. AKC is getting desperate to increase their bottom line so they may soon be more receptive to looking at approving trials that offer IPO. More activities,more dogs, more entries, more money. Economics 101.

Blitzen, I am NOT getting involved in this thread, I just wanted to say that having been to many AKC show events and several obedience trials, the shows are always packed and the working events, obedience, are dead empty.

Last one I went to, there may have been 30 people, TOTAL, at the place, it looked deserted as opposed to some of the AKC comfomation shows.

I don't honestly know if IPO is a good test of every GSD or not, so I won't get into the fray.  I have had another breed, know people in other breeds have been involved with purebred dogs in one capacity or another since 1970. I have honestly never seen anything like people in this breed; so at odds with one another that it's hard to know we all own the same breed.

Chicken, Hired Dog . Most people who are into OB is this area don't enter the all breed shows anymore.  Most of the OB people I know prefer the independent OB and agility trials over the all breed ones. 30 dogs total here would be a very small entry at an OB trial. We generally see more than that in each class, A & B together.

Blitzen, exactly the point I was making upstream!

I know you didn't like what I said about the conformation, but we all know the TV special, Pedigree Dogs Exposed (about all the harmful over-exaggerations pedigree dogs are being bred for) DID have quite a big negative impact on the show scene. And one of the breeds featured in that special was the GSD, with the emphasis on some animals that had absolutely horrible, wobbly hocks. (Some of them were GERMAN SL, IIRC!)  Of course the recession and other factors weighed in, too.

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I never watched those videos in their entirety and what impact did they have on the number of show entries declining?. Who did they make that impact on? Certainly not AKC breeders who laughed and dismissed them as AR BS. There is always some asshat making fun of GSD's. They ripped Zamp a new one when he won at Crufts. They take the videos from the BSZS and Westminster and say how much better their junk yard dogs are in comparison. Show photos and video of workinglines hanging on a sleeve warning the dog hating population of the danger of one of those mean Police Dogs. I can't even take a GSD into most camp grounds anymore because they are on the dangerous dog list the owners are given by their insurance companies. And all we want todo is to cut the baby in 3 pieces?

 Richard, is there some reason that you choose to consistently call USCA out of its name and chosen initials by adding your own set of letters.   There are few things universally understood to be disrespectful and refusing to use an entity's chosen name is one of them. 

Blitzen-- Unfortunately, you are misinformed. If you, or anyone else, would like to know what actually happened at that trial (nearly 10 years ago) and what USCA determined, as well as the sanctioned meted out, they can do so by going to USCA's website.  The decision, including the Board of Inquiry's determination (and the FACTS it is based upon) is under the BOI.    Also, you can access public records which can illuminate you in the trial transcipt of a related criminal action in Alabama involving the same main individuals.    USCA and its BOI certainly considered that sworn testimony in a court of law in making its determination, too.  

All I know is what I saw on a video and it was not 10 years ago, Mystere. It must have not been the same one you are talking about? Did that happen more than once?

I said "nearly ten years ago."   The BOI charges were heard and decision made, as I recall (haven't checked) 2007 or so.   The video.  Yes, you were told that is what you see on the video, but...  no one has ever seen tracks, tracking flags or any other evidence of tracks that were run over.    That is NOT on the video.       There is one good reason for that:  the videographer was turned away and filming something else at the time.    That is not to say that tracks were not  actually run over.  But, that is absolutely NOT on the famous video. 

Try reading the full BOI decision, if you really want to know the factsk,  and what USCA's response was.  The BOI had not only the video, but the testimony of witnesses at the event, the court documents, (including a transcipt), and other documentary evidence.