royalties for titles - Page 1

Nowadays apart from hip and elbow scores people want to see titles in a ped.


most people never title a dog or they take the easy option and show them. but when it comes time to market the litter breeders will point out all the titles in the ped.... which they invariably did not put on the dog.


this leads to the problem that breeders that don't title lose marketability after a few generations so they have to keep buying in new titled breed stock.

this causes the problem of never establishing a genetically valuable line of your own breeding pool. every other breeder is doing the same thing with the same pool of titled and newly titled dogs so every line ends up in every line and genetic diversity is lost (or will be).


I think it is only fair a royalties system like in playing an artist song publicly earns the artist a royalty which they cash in.


the royalties of course should go to the handlers or the orgs that do the titles to feedback to the clubs.


is this making any sense at all???

As with todays titeling, There pretty meaningless to the dogs true form and function. There is nothing in todays IPO that shows a dogs true worth. So to many titles arent the end all be all. Show me the dog and I,ll read about him latter. 

Bob is right, IPO titles mean nothing today as far as the dog, they are a tribute to the trainer's abilities and time. Breeding dogs simply because they have a title never made sense to me as those are an owner's efforts and not a true ability of a dog being able to reproduce itself...then again, with some titled dogs, do you really want more of them?

To totally discount IPO/Schutzhund titles is terriblly simplistic and a diservice to the breed. To credit the trainer and not the dog holds true in too few circumstances. In most cases a top trainer wants a dog which will accept the tasks taught and master the requirements. Same thing many would want in a police dog. Many dogs leave IPO/ Schutzhund training and go directly into service work. Name another place for a novice person to learn training. What is gained by this direction, no good dogs just good trainers?  No good marble, just good sculptors? 

Unless of course the marble now comes prefab, makes it easier to work with, or dogs come bred for IPO, makes them easier to train...As far as a Top trainers wanting, sure..they want a dog that is easy to train and perhaps mask faults on. Thiis NOT the Sch that was 30 and 50 years a go that was not a sport. Back then it was meant as a suitability test for breeding and in some ways, I guess it still is, hence why everyone is complaining of sport dogs not being able to do the job. 

 

I see enough working service/police dogs in my GSD travels, which come from a sport background , to say it is not a waste of time or a dead end. I saw my first police training almost 40 years ago and wonder what was so good about those days? 

REAL DOGS? 

as apposed to ghosts? 

As opposed to sport dogs.

dogs bred for herding are easier to train for herding than those bred for hunting. Real dogs today look for bombs, drugs, and people. A lot of prey training.