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Northern Maiden

by Northern Maiden on 09 October 2014 - 20:10

I like it!


Bundishep

by Bundishep on 09 October 2014 - 22:10

Its sad that some members wont post for fear of being attacked,there are some that belittle and attack others for little to no reason,some need to work on being more polite,seems to me one can have an opposing view without being attacked by some,some simply refuse to play nice in the sand box and seem to get off by being as rude as they can to others,it sad and I thank the moderators for trying to keep it in check. 


by Blitzen on 11 October 2014 - 13:10

Slam won't post here. He is a member of other GSD breed boards and I have that info and his email address. If you want the info on that breed board, pm me at gone2dadawgs2001@yahoo.com.  If you want his email address, you can let me know by pm'ing me at the above address and I will forward that to Slam and he can contact you directly. He is always willing to help with training advice and doesn't care where your got  your dog or it's bloodlines. He's all about helping with training.  I can also provide BeeTree with your contact information if you wish to talk to her.

I was out of town for a week, so don't know what happened with Kim. I assume he is saying he's done here? That's too bad if he did.

 


GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 11 October 2014 - 16:10

Slam can't post here.

There are things that happened that most/all of you have no clue what exactly happened, nor what the person did to get banned. You are hearing only one side of it. You may not have a clue that a hole was opened in the admin forum and certain members found it and used that info to tell others things that were none of their business and in fact fanned other members flames who then used that ill gotten info to demand things from us that we couldn't talk about.  And instead of informing us there was a hole they just kept on reading. Luckily we noticed the hole fairly quickly and Oli patched it. Those who read things in the admin forum couldn't be bothered to tell us about the hole but generally they were one of the first people to complain about how this site had malware and such all the while claiming how they hated this site but showed up all day everyday to participate.

Then of course we will always have those who say the grass is greener someplace else, I wonder what those sites would do if someone found a way into their admin section and used that info to stoke others against the site? We don't just ban people because we can and generally I will give multiple chances to people. And as matter of fact I have been called a softie by other admins because I generally will give people multiple chances to become members who can follow the rules of our forum.

I have been called pretty much every name in the book plus had my dearly departed mother labeled a slut and other not so nice things said about me. I do find it funny how some members can say and do anything they pretty much want and then when told to stop scream harassment to Oli. Oli has made it very clear that while you have the right of freedom of speech this is a privately owned site (not government owned) and we have every right in the world to remove posts and you, when and if we need to.

I hope you all will realize as far as admins go that it is a 2 way street and sometimes people drive on the wrong side of the street for whatever their reasons may be.

 


by Blitzen on 11 October 2014 - 17:10

I can't speak for anyone other than myself when I say that all I expect from the PDB is that admin enforces their own TOS's  equally to all members.


GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 11 October 2014 - 18:10

Trust me we try to do those things but run into interference from members who really don't know the whole story and appear to only believe what they are being told by others. It isn't necessarily our TOS but the members TOS, instead. Most of it isn't there to protect us but instead to protect the members who post here. And if you literally want it enforced we could probably do it with about 4 more admins and members who truly want to follow those rules, no matter if it is one of their friends who are suddenly breaking those rules and finding admin actions taken against their accounts. If you want to PM some examples of what you are considering to be times we are not enforcing the rules evenly, I would be happy to discuss it with you.

We shouldn't have to make a rule to contact us if you find a glitch that allows you access into parts of the site that you know aren't for you to read. Not just once but twice, mind you.

Just because you don't see things getting done when someone breaks a rule doesn't mean something didn't happen even if it is as simple as starting a thread to discuss and document the violations. Which starts a record of rule violations by said member and eventually leads to enough for us to say this member isn't worth the bother any longer and has become a cancer to this site. It sometimes doesn't happen over night because lets face it we have lives also. And at certain times of the day, week, month or year we aren't here much depending on our work and family commitments. Prime example was last summer when I was hardly here at all.

I am done commenting on this matter any further on this thread unless something gets posted that we may need to further clarify.


by Blitzen on 11 October 2014 - 20:10

I have done the right thing and reported posts,usually written by the same member, numerous times. Since those posts are still here I am guessing that admin's definition of a violation of TOS 5 does not match mine.

Maybe admin can clarify the meaning of that TOS  that states that members may not carry out personal attacks, be rude, disrespectful, insulting, threatening or abusive publicly to any member of PDB.

Thanks


by vk4gsd on 11 October 2014 - 20:10

i feel for admins/mods, they have to have the skills to treat adults that act like pre-schoolers, he said this..., you called me a..., she said it first...., what a mess.

 

i assume  most are here just for the drama, even the ones the make the most drama that they are not here for the drama, they are the biggest drama queens.

 

 


Western Rider

by Western Rider on 11 October 2014 - 21:10

I would like to make a point about many of the abuse reports that I have looked into and why my response many times is not what the person who is making the complaint are happy with.

When I check out the complaint I reread, depending on the number of pages, all or most of the thread. I will many times note that the complainer is being way over sensitive or they have pushed the other member to the point of said reaction for no other reason than to cause them trouble and get them banned.

I do not want members using overly foul language, belittling others for any reason and will edit, delete and PM the offender. 

I am going to do my best not to become the pawn of someone who wants cause trouble by complaining about others when they themselves are pushing and really creating the problem.

Like GSDadmin this is all I will say on this and hope many now understand why  not all complaints are resolved the way the complainer wanted.

I would like this board to be a welcoming place for all no matter their knowledge or perceived knowledge.

 


by Blitzen on 11 October 2014 - 21:10

Just to be clear, many of the posts I reported were not directed at or involved me and, yes, they were written by the same member who has continued to be abusive and insulting to anyone who dared to disagree.  I'm not taking this any farther either, but I do wish that admin could be more specific about what is and what is not a violation of TOS 5.






 


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