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by Hazel Shirley on 18 July 2016 - 01:07

Hi can anyone tell.me what V1 VA ( CN + A ) means thank you because I did contact gsd show dog Ireland fbook page and they didn't know

Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 18 July 2016 - 04:07

Dog is competing in shows for dogs over 2 years old
V in German (Vorzüglich - rated excellent) (the 1 means first place)
VA in German (Vorzüglich-Auslese) this is higher than V and is reserved for the very top dogs. The VA 1 is the Sieger
CN = China
A = ?? by itself has no meaning. It should be a 2 letter code. But it probably means Austria.
Give us the dogs name and I or someone else can tell you more.
And maybe someone can explain it better than I did.

susie

by susie on 18 July 2016 - 15:07

I guess this dog was V1 rated in Germany ( without further info you can´t see if this was at a local show or at the Siegershow ), VA rated in China and Austria.

http://www.schaeferhunden.eu/winsis_x/winsissearch.php?tp=1

Here you´ll find your answers ( search for the dog, and take a look at "show events" ).

Kind regards


by StevieS on 29 July 2016 - 15:07

An imageHow about this one? I bred this dog and she lived here the first year of her life. No training at all. Had weaker cowhocked hips as well. I'm seeing these titles added. Already the dog has been lied about her hip scores back and forth and she finally removed them,after I told her wasn't a good idea to lie FOR SALES......here are the titles, and knowing the dog I bred very well, this can't be so!!   Like I said the girl who got the dogs (huge mistake on my part) has lied and used DB as her go to "for sales" purposes deceiving the DB and customers......hate that!    What are these tiltes anyway?  Besides fake.


GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 17 August 2016 - 16:08

How about this one - I have seen the titles myself and you appear to have committed libel against this person and if it was me, I would slap a lawsuit against you. You need to stay out of the comments section for this dog. You cannot prove these titles weren't earned and we have the copies of said titles.

CJones79

by CJones79 on 17 August 2016 - 17:08

Thank you admin for your response to the personal attacks on this owner. Nice to see that lying childish behavior will be nipped in the bud.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 17 August 2016 - 18:08

Terminology wasn't great either - WTF are "cowhocked hips" ?

CJones79

by CJones79 on 17 August 2016 - 18:08

This isn't the first time this user has made these kinds of attacks on people.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 19 August 2016 - 12:08

The burden of proof is on the dog owner and seller as regards so called titles. Not a single dog I know seems to care about titles .. all ego, money, and plastic trophies to sit on a shelf. Plenty of dogs sent to Europe that were titled but not trained. An inside joke for the GSD crowd. One dog that I know has been misrepresented for years with fake titles. The dog supposedly got 8 titles in one year returned to the USA and never did another title or show. Just generations of crap puppies sold on the basis of fake titles. Never accept any title as real or earned .. or better yet consider them all suspect.

Les The Kiwi Pauling

by Les The Kiwi Pauling on 19 August 2016 - 13:08

Most DogSport addicts misuse the word TITLE.
All titles are stated in FRONT of the name - Baron,
Bishop, Ch., Dr., Emperor, Führer, Kaiser, King, Lord, President, Queen, etc. So there are working titles such as Agility Ch., BSP Sgr., Int.Ch.(T), Obed.Ch., PreisHüteSieger
(& about 4 other variations on that "HGH Ch." title), WT.Ch., WUSV Sgr.
But the "letters" such as ADX, BSc, CGC, DVM, HGH, IPO, MBA, PhD, SchH, WDX, ZVV that go AFTER the name are NOT titles - they are QUALIFICATIONS.






 


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