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Prager

by Prager on 07 October 2018 - 08:10

As far as polar icecaps go the hoaxters are telling you yet again only partial truth:
ANTarctica's ( SOUTH POLE) Sea Ice is Growing While the Arctic( NORTH POLE) Melts.
There you go calm down. Ballance of nature cannot be upset as easily as hoaxters would love you to believe. ;)


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 08 October 2018 - 14:10

Since the direction taken on any policy by the United Nations is not wholly dependant on interpretation of solely the USA's politics and finance (being as it is, whether Trump wants to co-operate with it or not, an INTERNATIONAL body), it is hard to see why the UN and the International Panel on Climate Change would be so keen to pander to some US profit making concerns about CO2 & carbon footprints etc.

Perhaps Prager would care to explain exactly why the UN and the IPCC have not concurred with the 'incontravertible data' of Dr Easterbrook et al ? Going by today's announcements, the UN and IPCC do not sound as if they have accepted contradictions of the sort shown on the video Prager has offered us.

Prager

by Prager on 08 October 2018 - 16:10

It may be because I did not have my coffee yet but I have no clue what you are talking about. Can you dumb it down for me? I will just say this. Of course, IPCC did not concured. IPCC projections are based on computer modeling which tilts the data to what people who hold the purse want. there is a difference between the truth of science and political intentions.
Don't you remember a few years ago where it was revealed that IPCC used made up measurements( lied) in their computer modeling? (google it)

BTW, CO2 "hockey stick" chart is a sophistry/logical falsehood hoax, because CO2 cannot be absorbed into air continually which is what is haox chart projects. There is a thing called the saturation point. It is akin ability of sponge absorb water. There is only so much of it which can be absorbed into it and then the absorption stops as it is with it CO2 absorption into the air and the subsequent greenhouse effect. The deadly increase of CO2 greenhouse effect is only possible if you dishonestly manipulate laws of physics.
Also water vapor causes much more greenhouse effect then CO2 that is to the point that compared to H2O vapor, CO2 is not very significant purveyor of the greenhouse effect. It is all about taking money from your pocket into cons pocket via carbon footprint hoax. After all, you can not tax water vapor - yet. ;)

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 08 October 2018 - 17:10

Basically, dumbed down: Why would the UN reps of other countries go along with what is clearly (according to Easterbrook) wilful ignorance about the origins, severity or otherwise, of global warming ? Does not make sense to say the UN / IPCC just go along with faked up facts n' figures, when there is clearly enough expertise around to challenge those conclusions. If its all only to support US policy, US participants, US based financial interests, then why would the rest of the world just go meekly along with that ?

Mountain Lion

by Mountain Lion on 08 October 2018 - 20:10

Following are four reasons why I will bet my life that "climate change" is the greatest scientific and political hoax in human history.

1. Rampant scientific fraud

Ordinary people like me don't understand climate science, but we can spot cheating a mile away. Without the assistance of a complicit Western media in burying multiple indisputable cases of outright scientific fraud, man-made global warming theory would have been blown out of the water years ago.

One of the most brazen instances of inexcusable scientific misconduct is documented by photographic evidence gathered during a three-month investigation by a veteran meteorologist. As reported in this PDF, the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) placed hundreds of official global warming thermometers in locations entirely unsuitable for gathering natural temperatures:

● Adjacent to hot engines of parked vehicles

● On asphalt-covered roofs

● Near hot exhaust vents of air conditioning units

● On heat-retaining airport tarmacs and paved parking lots

● Next to heat-retaining rock formations and brick buildings

Global warming is measured in tenths of a degree, so every artificial upward nudge creates a deceptive picture of actual temperatures. To avoid artificially elevated readings, NOAA's own official site location standards require that thermometers be placed at least 100 feet from any paved or concrete surface, and in a level, open area with natural ground cover. Those standards were clearly subverted, and every voter should demand to know why.

No supporter of man-made global warming theory who sees the photographs in the PDF linked to above – all of which have been downplayed, or outright ignored, by the complicit Western media – can fail to ascertain that the theory they support is being kept on life support by scientific fraud.

2. The duping of Mr. & Mrs. John Q. Public

As reported in Forbes, the following unguarded statement was made by one of the climate crisis industry's loudest drum-beaters, the late Dr. Steven Schneider, lead author of numerous alarming U.N. climate reports and former professor of climatology at Stanford:


We need broad-based support to capture the public's imagination, we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.

In other words, one of the climate crisis lobby's most loyal sycophants told his like-minded colleagues that they not only must conceal evidence that casts doubt on global warming theory, but also craft their research in dishonest ways designed to create terror in the minds of a trusting public. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that dishonesty and concealment of contrarian views have no place in legitimate science.

3. A long trail of wildly inaccurate predictions

As reported by Fox News, a 2015 report published in the journal Nature Climate Change compared 117 computer model projections during the 1990s with the amount of actual warming that occurred. Of the 117, only three were roughly accurate, while 114 over-estimated the recorded warming. (The lopsided results suggest that those doing the modeling may have been guilty of using an unscientific technique known as garbage in, garbage out.) On average, the computer models predicted twice as much warming as that which actually occurred.

The wildly inaccurate predictions reported by Nature Climate Change were not alone. In a terrifying May 11, 1982 prediction trumpeted in the Western media, Mostafa Tolba, executive director of the U.N. Environment Program (UNEP) decreed that an environmental "tipping point" was closing in: "Earth faces environmental disaster as final as nuclear war by the end of this century unless governments act now." That bone-chilling assessment was seconded seven years later, in July 1989, by another senior U.N. climate official, Noel Brown, who warned: "Entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by 2000." When that tipping point came and went 19 years ago, others were concocted, including one by NASA scientist Dr. James Hanson, who declared in January 2009, "President Obama has just four
years to save Earth." As one frantic tipping point after another falls by the wayside, a new one is invented, each of which is breathlessly reported by the complicit Western media.

4. Intentional concealment of inconvenient parts of climate history

In serving as willing propagandists for the climate crisis industry, Western media portray every severe weather event as the "worst ever," which they are now doing regarding the drought in the Southwestern U.S. and the flooding caused by Hurricane Florence. What the alarmists try to hide from voters at all costs are inconvenient parts of Earth's climate history, such as these:

● Ancient mega-droughts were infinitely worse than anything people living in modern times have seen. Example: Around the year 850 AD, a mega-drought in what is now the Desert Southwest lasted a staggering 240 years, and that catastrophic climate event was preceded a half-century earlier by another mega-drought that lasted 180 years. Absent that kind of information, it's no wonder so many otherwise intelligent Americans have been conned into believing that the current drought is the "worst ever."

● The Great Hurricane of 1780 killed 20,000 people in the Caribbean. On Sept. 8, 1900, a Cat-4 hurricane obliterated the island of Galveston, Texas, killing an estimated 10,000 residents. In 1927, weeks of heavy rains along the Mississippi River caused flooding that covered 27,000 square miles, leaving entire towns and surrounding farmland submerged up to a depth of 30 feet and displacing 640,000 that covered 27,000 square miles, leaving entire towns and surrounding farmland submerged up to a depth of 30 feet and displacing 640,000 people, from Louisiana to Illinois. The Yangtze River flood of 1931, one of the deadliest single events in human history, was responsible for a death toll estimated at 3.7 million.

Hurricane Florence and the flooding it caused were unquestionably devastating. But the worst ever? You decide.

You won't hear a peep about past ecological disasters in the debate over global warming. The climate crisis industry conceals inconvenient parts of Earth's climate history that undermine its "worst ever" claims.

Bottom line: Listed above are four reasons – I have many more – why I will bet my life that "climate change" is a flat-out hoax.



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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 08 October 2018 - 21:10

All of which may or may not be accurate ML but that still does not answer my question to Hans; it does not explain WHY the 'hoax' is being perpetrated, nor why, with so many other experts about, discussions at the UN seem to be passed nem con / winning the day, in the face of so much contrary 'evidence'. [No clear winners INTERNATIONALLY.]



Mountain Lion

by Mountain Lion on 08 October 2018 - 22:10


Prager

by Prager on 08 October 2018 - 23:10

Hundmutter. I did not say that it is in the interest of US. What I an saying is that it is in the interest of all countries who want to participate in this fleecing of populations. . It is about money - tax collected in name of diminishment of carbon footprint and promote subsidies for let say solar energy and alike which could not stand economically alone. So it does not matter if you are in US or Rwanda Burundi. As a matter of fact the hoax works best if all world is involved in it that is what participants of the Paris accord were so upset because the US rejected it.
As far as challenging Dr.Easterbrook goes the fact is that Eastbrook is talking about basic laws of physics which are generally accepted and I have elarned about in grammar school and high school, where UN/IPCC is based on computer-generated conclusions which they intentionally misrepresented in name of fitting it to the agenda of the man-made global warming Hoax. IPCC and UN are basically a government subsidized organizations which will do or say anything in order not to lose their funding.
BTW that IPCC committed fraud for many years and the details of this fraud is a on the public record and you can find info on it on internet - that is if you care. So you have on one hand laws of physics and on the other, you have fraudulently generated computer modeling. What would you benlieve? Of course, we all know that computer modelling depends on what you enter. For example look at the projection path of a hurricane based on computer-generated models. They could be quite a different one from each other and from whatever eventually will happen. that is true even when the scientists are not intentionally entering fake data. Personally, I believe hundreds of years of laws of physics than to malleable computer generation.

Prager

by Prager on 09 October 2018 - 00:10

Great article Mountain Lion!!!!





 


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