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by Jinxy on 07 January 2012 - 04:01
Sending positive thoughts and vibes to Victoria, Reign and puppies!
K
by chaz on 07 January 2012 - 10:01
Hope everything gets sorted soon, very disappointed in the vet. X
by ggturner on 07 January 2012 - 14:01
Nothing new yet? Wonder how many puppies survived? So sad! Really mad at the vet!
by gsd39mr on 07 January 2012 - 14:01
I am so sorry to see that things have not gone well for Victoria and her girl.Hopefully the remaining pups can be saved and that Mom will be able to take care of her babies. This shows how important it is to have Vet back-up that is knowledgable and experienced with pregnancy and whelping (if possible).
My and my bitchs first litter was also difficult, her water broke on a Tuesday night and first puppy came feet first about 2 am but was fine, but by Thursday morning I only had 3 puppies (8 counted on x-ray). I didn't have the green discharge but we both were exhanusted; when she didn't have another puppy by early afternoon and many calls to the Repo Vet it was bring her in for a c-section. Though there are several ER vets closer I drove an hour on snowy roads to the expert. We got there about 4pm, section was done, 6 more puppies (9 total), she was home with me by 6:30pm still groggy but nursing her babies. The staff is very experienced, they get in and got the puppies out and brought them all to me and my friend to rub and keep warm while they stitched her up. They were all very vigorous. They want the bitch with the puppies as soon as possible, we had to carry her out to the car. We had the car running with the heat cranked up. She aroused easily, was frantic when she heard them crying, but couldn't stay awake. She wasn't fully alert and up walking without help until about 2 am. I rotated the puppies around (only 8 spots at the milkbar!) and would bring each to her head for licking to potty them and so she would know each one. I'm a nurse so I kept a close eye on her,cleaned her incision and took her temp 3x/day concerned about infection and 2 days later she spiked a temp (105), I gave her aspirin immediately cooled her with compresses and the vet phoned in an Rx for Amoxiciilin to the CVS and all was well. She was a great mom and all 9 puppies did very well.
My heart goes out to Victoria and pray for the 4 babies and mom, I hope she has 7 healthy babies running around soon.
Jo Ann
My and my bitchs first litter was also difficult, her water broke on a Tuesday night and first puppy came feet first about 2 am but was fine, but by Thursday morning I only had 3 puppies (8 counted on x-ray). I didn't have the green discharge but we both were exhanusted; when she didn't have another puppy by early afternoon and many calls to the Repo Vet it was bring her in for a c-section. Though there are several ER vets closer I drove an hour on snowy roads to the expert. We got there about 4pm, section was done, 6 more puppies (9 total), she was home with me by 6:30pm still groggy but nursing her babies. The staff is very experienced, they get in and got the puppies out and brought them all to me and my friend to rub and keep warm while they stitched her up. They were all very vigorous. They want the bitch with the puppies as soon as possible, we had to carry her out to the car. We had the car running with the heat cranked up. She aroused easily, was frantic when she heard them crying, but couldn't stay awake. She wasn't fully alert and up walking without help until about 2 am. I rotated the puppies around (only 8 spots at the milkbar!) and would bring each to her head for licking to potty them and so she would know each one. I'm a nurse so I kept a close eye on her,cleaned her incision and took her temp 3x/day concerned about infection and 2 days later she spiked a temp (105), I gave her aspirin immediately cooled her with compresses and the vet phoned in an Rx for Amoxiciilin to the CVS and all was well. She was a great mom and all 9 puppies did very well.
My heart goes out to Victoria and pray for the 4 babies and mom, I hope she has 7 healthy babies running around soon.
Jo Ann
by stary_eyed_angel on 07 January 2012 - 15:01
This is the update from Victoria's FB page.
by Betta Wolf on 07 January 2012 - 15:01
TY, stary eyed angel, for this update.
Thoughts with Victoria.
Thoughts with Victoria.
by stary_eyed_angel on 07 January 2012 - 15:01
Update from an hour ago.
I'm on my way to pick Reign up from GBEV and take her and the pups to churchland animal clinic so everyone can get a thorough check up. I'm needing to tube feed 2 puppies that aren't looking to good.....
I'm on my way to pick Reign up from GBEV and take her and the pups to churchland animal clinic so everyone can get a thorough check up. I'm needing to tube feed 2 puppies that aren't looking to good.....
by gsd39mr on 07 January 2012 - 15:01
Victoria,
I know it's hard, but try not to think about what was lost and focus on the 7 you now have. I hope your girl wll recover unevently after her transfusion. 14 is alot for any litter let alone a first litter, and 7 babies for you to care for will be a huge job right now, hopefully you have help. There are many things we all second guess, and many lessons learned the hard way but know you have probably helped someone else avoid a similar heartache.
Jo Ann
I know it's hard, but try not to think about what was lost and focus on the 7 you now have. I hope your girl wll recover unevently after her transfusion. 14 is alot for any litter let alone a first litter, and 7 babies for you to care for will be a huge job right now, hopefully you have help. There are many things we all second guess, and many lessons learned the hard way but know you have probably helped someone else avoid a similar heartache.
Jo Ann
by Jenni78 on 07 January 2012 - 16:01
Thank God Reign is still alive! She's the one I was most worried about. Not that the poor pups weren't a concern, but I was afraid by the time the c-section wasn't done the night before, that most of them were lost anyway. 
Hang in there, Victoria. Keep good notes, if you can find the time. That vet needs to be....well, I'll just say keep your cool and take care of the dogs and when they're out of the woods, give 'em hell. It's easy to want to believe a vet who reassures you, when you want so much to be reassured that everything is fine.
Disappointment doesn't begin to cover it. I'm hardly the most experienced breeder. I've had experience with, what, maybe half a dozen litters? And I read her post and was in a panic. I emailed both her accounts to try and catch her in case she didn't log on here again. WHY was I more concerned than the vet? Why did I see the writing on the wall and he/she didn't and sent her home?! This is a person with a DVM, and I only know what I know from experience and a ton of research, because I'm a worrywart. Furious, livid, seething...those come to mind before disappointed. This is on the vet, not you, Victoria. Feel free to show the vet my comments and emails to you. Don't let them think for a minute that it was something no one else would've caught.
More prayers!!!!
Hang in there, Victoria. Keep good notes, if you can find the time. That vet needs to be....well, I'll just say keep your cool and take care of the dogs and when they're out of the woods, give 'em hell. It's easy to want to believe a vet who reassures you, when you want so much to be reassured that everything is fine.
Disappointment doesn't begin to cover it. I'm hardly the most experienced breeder. I've had experience with, what, maybe half a dozen litters? And I read her post and was in a panic. I emailed both her accounts to try and catch her in case she didn't log on here again. WHY was I more concerned than the vet? Why did I see the writing on the wall and he/she didn't and sent her home?! This is a person with a DVM, and I only know what I know from experience and a ton of research, because I'm a worrywart. Furious, livid, seething...those come to mind before disappointed. This is on the vet, not you, Victoria. Feel free to show the vet my comments and emails to you. Don't let them think for a minute that it was something no one else would've caught.
More prayers!!!!
by Betty on 07 January 2012 - 17:01
Still sending healing thougths to you and your pack from Florida Victoria. I hope somehow you have found someone to take a shift so that you can grab a couple of hours sleep.
Hang in there! While losing so many is heart breaking 7 will be a lot easier on mom and on you.
Hang in there! While losing so many is heart breaking 7 will be a lot easier on mom and on you.
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