changing the stacking pose of the german shepherd?? - Page 19

why can't it change??? why??

i want to know why???

how does this not chnaging benefit the breed???

i said the breed...not the handlers or judges or owners........the breed??

becasue the stack is GOOD for the breed.

Eddy why do you want to change the stack so bad?  How?  The dogs are already basically stacked square like EVERY other breed.  Why would you change the stack but not the standard?  They'd still be evaluated based on the same criteria......  this thread makes no sense!

We all see things differently....most workinglines people dont post in anymore....like this thread....most topics are cosmetic it seems. Eddie go out and train and experience the norm of the different types....it may or may not change your opinions but you will have firsthand knowledge of what you talk about.

Yes, we do.  I can only share my perspective.  I've shown working lines (my own and some for other people) and have never had problems with the way GSDs are stacked...  I'm still concerned that Eddy thinks changing the way a dog is setup somehow alters the conformation of the dog...

Most never entails everyone.

VK, the only thing I can figure that stacking could alter the conformation of the breed, is stacking a dog that naturally has a straight back to cause the back to appear roached, And placing the hind leg so far out behind the dog to cause the appearance of extreme angulation, when the dog may not really be over angulated. So, if that's what the judges look for, it would stand to reason that a person choosing what is preferred by judges, will chose the dog that already has the 'look' before stacking. That's why the over angulation and roached backs exist....because that is what wins in the ring so that is what is chosen for breeding. That's why, in my opinion, the roached back and over angulation is showing up in WLs, too. JMO

But if you place the hock square (perpendicular to the ground), then a dog with extreme rear will show extreme rear, and a dog with moderate rear will show moderate rear.  The stack is not to make all dogs appear the same, it actually allows you to see the difference is in structure (as well as having the dogs move at different paces, the judge feeling all over the dog, watching the dog come and go from in front or behind, etc).  If a dog that does not have an extreme rear is being stacked to make it look so, then my guess is that dog is "overstretched" in the rear and not actually stacked properly.