My Puppie is a son of Balko & it has been confirmed he has Hip Displaysia, He is only 10 months & 3 - Page 2

HD happens because the breeders will take 1 sire out of a bunch of crippled dogs and 1 mother out of another HD infested litter and then brag around how careful they have coupled them.

HD has been anchored into a breed that focuses on beauty champions with hilarious angulations.

As Jeff Oehlsen said: "you can do all the tests in the world, it doesn't mean shit"

Breeders withhold the bad results, brag about the single dog in the litter with HD1-hips. They even manipulate the hipscores.
So what about breed survey and breed value assesment?
It's all a big hoax. Not worth the paper it's written on.

What's supposed to be hobby breeding, is a huge moneymaking machine.

Read all about it on my website gsd-legends.eu/Varia/DSH-WELPEN-Top-100-Mit-Umsatzberechnungsmodell.xlsx

Enjoy!
Jantie

Link to the accompanying text, English Version:

gsd-legends.eu/Varia/SV-Breeders%20Top%20100%20with%20Revenue-Calculation.pdf

Thank you for all the replie's, I noticed Brutus was walking strange when he was 5 months old I took him to the vets & she said wait until he is 12 months old & they will do a hip score, 2 weeks later it was bothering me because I knew something was wrong so they made an appointment for him to go to the Exeter Animal Hospital where they did all the necessary test, When I picked him up I was told the X rays etc showed that he has got almost Square hip sockets & it is Definatly Hereditary , I took him back 3 weeks later for a check up & they want to see him again when he is fully grown at 18 months old with the great chance he will need both his hips replaced, But my biggest gripe is the fact that his Breeders don't want to know they have showed no concern or care what so ever & I'm very upset about it, It seem to me that they breed for show (Trophies & Money) when it comes to a person buying a puppy who is going to a VERY LOVING HOME they don't want to know, I know it could well be the Mothers side, In answer to 1 of the comments I could never return him for a different hopefully healthy Puppie because there would be only 1 thing they would do & that is to put him to sleep I could Never Never Ever Ever do that because I love him far to much to do that to him, If this was an Electrical Appliance yes take it back & demand a new 1 but this is a living breathing very affectionate Animal who we Love,I asked the Breeder to send his parents hip scores to me 8 weeks ago & they never have I have also sent them a full hospital report & they have not contacted me at all, This whole thing has reduced me to tears many times, I have had 8 GSDs I lost my first one who was a rescue dog because of Epileptic Fits at 6 months old, Another 1 had 3 cancer tumours in his lungs at 5 years old & then 1 at 5years old from CDRM & last year my 2 year old from Chronic Kidney Failure & now Brutus with this, The only thing I'm guilty of is loving them with all my heart, Also in answer to another question he is fed on Arden Grange tinned food mixed with Hills Dried food & I did everything for Brutus by the book , I have been told that I am sent the sick one's because they will get the best life a dog could have, But that doesn't comfort me because it doesn't stop me from going through the heartache of loosing them, GSDs are the only breed i Love maybe I should change breeds but then what breed is perfect ?.

Marilyn who is the sire and dam ?

Hills is one of the worst dog foods out there, FYI.  It has ethoxyquin, a pesticide that is fatal to many small animals, in it.
Mmm... pesticides in dog food.  Yummy.

Regardless, you need to follow whatever steps your contract with the breeder outlined to remedy this situation.  Most of the time it involves taking the dog to the breeder's Vet or Specialist, and having the dog re-evaluated.

I've heard of dogs that vets declared crippled and doomed at 9 months turn out to have fantastic hips at 2 years.  Vets are not experts on HD, you need to wait until the dog is a year, have the films scored correctly, and if they're still horrible, have the films sent directly from the Vet to the breeder.

Ethoxyquin is not a pesticide, never has been.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethoxyquin

The big stink was that it was used in rubber for tires, and God forbid a chemical has more than one use. Many years ago, a puppy mill breeder of Yorkies lost a bunch of pups, and decided that Ethoxyquin was the problem. She won the case. 

Fats are very hard to preserve without refrigeration. Most of the time they go rancid. I think this starts occurring around 25 to 30 days. They turn to a simple sugar, so it is not like the food goes bad, but fat is what dogs burn for energy.

Hi Marilyn,

I really feel for you, and thats the first thing to say.  You aree obviously a very genuine loving person with your dogs, and have had a poor health history with them.  Now I`m going to sound brutal.   Your post makes me wonder if all is as bad as you feel it is.

You say the following   
I noticed Brutus was walking strange when he was 5 months old I took him to the vets & she said wait until he is 12 months old & they will do a hip score

before I give my comment, please remember, I havent see your puppy, so am only telling you from my heart how I would view this.   Your vet has given the correct information here........ also on the other side of the coin, at 5 months old, lots of puppys  "walk funny"
then you say

2 weeks later it was bothering me because I knew something was wrong so they made an appointment for him to go to the Exeter Animal Hospital   where they did all the necessary test,   what made you certain there was something wrong?  What were "all of the tests"  Two weeks after the vet had suggested he would score at 1 yr old.  He is now being seen again.  -  Again, remember, I`m not criticising.

you say When I picked him up I was told the X rays etc showed that he has got almost Square hip sockets & it is Definatly Hereditary , this is far fetched Marilyn.  Square hips in the socket is far fetched, but DEFINATELY hereditary is more than far fetched from a vet.... he would make a million if he could swear that for you.....  again - I am not denying he "might" be right, but you have been put in a very compromising position by this particular statement.

you say: I took him back 3 weeks later for a check up & they want to see him again when he is fully grown at 18 months old with the great chance he will need both his hips replaced,  -  what happened to the normal recommendation of 12 month BVA scoring - and why would a vet want to leave him til 18 months if this was available as good solid
evidence of each place on the bone being identified and scored individually?   Hip replacements, he is here talking to you with your puppy now 6 months according to the timing, and stating a yeaar later hip joint replacements.  Be suspicious of this particular bit of info.

snd you say:  Breeders don't want to know they have showed no concern or care what so ever & I'm very upset about it,  - please pm me.  I am nobody special, but bet if we treat all parties with respect, and take out the sensationalism of your one vete, and get you to feel happier that its not perhaps hopefully as bad as you have been led to believe, we can come to a good outcome for you.  I dont even know who bred your puppy, but will help you to a fair, kind and responsible conclusion for all parties including the little puppy that you love so much.

I cant understand why the sire and dams health records on hips werent on your paperwork, and there are a lot of little other things that we could discuss, and I am sure that lots of people out there, who have used Balko, and indeed his owneres would like to get to the bottom of this.   It can happen.   Good sires of excellent hips can produce a poor status
- breeders can take no responsibility - owners can be swayed by vets - lets get to the bottom of it, and then put the post on in its correct entirely.    Mo.

Mo,trust yu to come on here yet again with words of wisdom and compassion for both the puppy and owner.well done girl.Marilyn yu can have complete faith in this lady i can assure yu.she is one of the good ones and i for one would trust her implicitively.i too had a male who at about the same age looked peculiar when walking away.he seemed very low at the back,almost as if he was sinking into the ground as he walked.i was advised by the co-owner of the dam,to have his hips screened,which we did.one hip was completely out of the socket,whilst the other was classed as exc.(hip score at 1 yr approx.3-45)2 litter sisters were also scored and both attained 3-3.Caesar was born Aug.1987 and was PTS.aged nearly 13 due to a torsion.his hip status didnt bother him till he was about 10/11 when he obviously developed arthritis.he had problems during the winter and if it was wet,cold and damp,but in the warmer weather he still ran about the fields with the others.even if the pup does  have dysplasia it isnt a life sentence of pain as they develope more muscle to compensate,so dont be to hasty to have the hip replacement op.take time out to ponder the pros and cons.no doubt Mo and others who have dysplastics gsds will give yu their honest opinions.i do remember a lady ,many years ago,who bred and kept 2 litter brothers who had hip scores in the high 90,s ,which did agility.i wish yu well with your baby and hope that its just puppy looseness.incidentally when Caesar was x-rayed at 1 yr.the bad hip did not look as dislocated as it did at 7/8 mths.Carole Spelman.

ok here goes on vets i sold pup 18months ago 10 months ago this pup had a skin allergy so he said then it went to a blood disorder then it was skin allergy again this poor pup shampooed in special stuff diet changed every other week blood tests vets bills then i said to the poor lady get a 2nd opinion so we did after all the messing considering havin pup put down cause skin so bad and bloods well were gunna see him off anyway according to the vet so 2nd opinion came the bloody pup had picked up fox mange all is well now and he back to normal my faith in vets is zilch and to be fair marilyn what mo says is absolutley correct has your pups hips been bva scored ? dont believe all unless its in black and white and bva score done
jeanette