Breeder Rights? Breeder Greed? - Page 20

Molly, what makes you so sure no one here has heard the truth?  Not from you of course, because, even though you preach facts, you certainly don't know how to tell them.

Molly, You keep harping about the drama and   making up facts to suit yourselves. The facts are you created the original drama by posting on this and other forums, fuel was added to the fire as things progressed. You could have taken a different approach and maybe had a different reaction from the board members. Your a big girl and you know what this board and most others are like and the likely outcome of such posts. Especially when you've been under the microscope about other dealings in the past. Like it or not, you brought this on yourself and you should have known better.
Don't post such things on message boards expecting everyone to take your side, that will never happen.There will always be two sides to every story and different people will take different sides based on what they beleive the truth to be, thats just life.

And the sad thing is 4pack, that is what is so obvious to the affronted. After all these recent, eloquent replies with heartfelt explanations. There is no condolence, just an expression of suspicion. 

It won't happen folks, that gene is missing or at best, suppressed... I put that in for Deanna... 


 (Hexe, you are one smart cookie, but with this, the round pegs just don't fit those square holes. Must be one heck of a good BarBQ!)

beetree, honey, while I appreciate the compliment, I do have to correct a misconception you're laboring under...I've never been to Molly's place--not her present location, nor where she lived (MD or VA) when I first met her, let alone the annual reunion. I don't have, and have never had, a dog from Molly's breeding, or that Molly rescued, or that had anything to do with Molly whatsoever.  And I don't think Molly's a saint who can do no wrong, either--but by the same token, she's never claimed to be. (I, of course, do fit this description...KIDDING. AS IF!)

I just don't care for the wholesale scourging that ensues *every time* somebody comes on here and starts waving their dirty drawers around while placing the blame entirely on this particular breeder.  I get it--lots of folks don't like Molly. Not a surprise--women who are smart in business, and who refuse to be bullied by anyone, tend to be disliked and they also generally tend to not be 'warm fuzzy' people-person types.  But to the best of my knowledge, the majority of people who have gotten dogs from Molly have been quite happy with their dogs, the support they've received from Molly when they had questions or concerns, and how they've been treated by her. Given the number of dogs she's sold or rehomed over the years, that's a pretty damn good track record. 

Let's be fair here--Molly didn't start this thread here.  Now, I notice that Wanda has been conspicuously silent since Molly's posts appeared, too--no responses to any questions directed toward her in the thread, either. It's really easy to accuse Molly of being insensitive and cruel to the friends who currently have the deceased woman's dogs--yet Molly and the deceased ALSO clearly had SOME kind of relationship, since Molly *gave* the now-deceased woman a nice bitch puppy after the woman's older Eichenluft dog developed a physical condition that will likely limit the older dog's activities at some point.  So Molly also qualifies as a bereaved friend--and one who had/has the added stress of worrying about the two dogs she brought into the world, in addition her shock at the woman's death.  It doesn't seem like Molly called Wanda directly and said "Gimme those dogs, now!"--it doesn't sound like the two of them have even spoken directly to one another, in fact. 

I have admitted all along that I don't know the whole story of this--and regardless of what Wanda or anyone else on that side of the conflict has told you, NEITHER DO YOU.  As with most disagreements, the truth probably lies somewhere between Wanda's version of the events and Molly's version.  If it can be established that both dogs are in homes suited to handling and caring for them, and that the intent is for these to be forever homes for them, AND the people who have them agree to notify Molly if they have any problems with the dogs, and give her first rights to them if the dogs need to be rehomed for any reason, then I think it would be best for the dogs to stay where they're wanted, and I sure wouldn't be supportive of Molly making efforts to gain custody of them...but that's for the actual involved parties to work out.

I just don't understand what was to be gained by a coyly 'blind' posting about this situation that wouldn't have been better provided by allowing the estate executor to deal with the circumstances.

Completely agree with Hexe who articulated it so much better than I could have.

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So Molly says,
would hope all dog owners who love their dogs and die suddenly have friends like that.  Because - it happens ALL THE TIME beetree - when someone dies, the pets are not taken in by friends.  They are discarded, sold, put on craigslist, euthanized, sent to shelters.  It  happens ALL THE TIME.  Breeders are not notified, and even if they could be - most breeders don't have contracts that mention getting the dog back "for any reason" - they don't keep in touch with the owners, and they don't care enough to keep track of the dogs.  I do.

I knew the moment this owner was diagnosed with her illness.  I spoke to her often, weekly, sometimes several times/week, in the 6 years since she bought the first dog from me.  I was her friend, too.  I knew the day she was going into the hospital.  I heard the news within an hour of her passing away suddenly. 

    I would think THIS WOMAN, knowing something wrong in the hospitol, would have given you back your dogs at this time, IF THAT IS WHETRE SHE WANTED THEM TO GO!!!Within an hour your hunting them down!!!THAT IS BREEDER GREED!!!!!
        Once Molly gets the dogs back, they will be placed in a kennel and of course RESCUED, and rehomed for a phenominal service fee...
    Thats Mollys way...cha-ching!!!




ZMOD EDIT:  ENOUGH!!  I DELETED SOME OF YOUR REMARKS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH THE MOLLY/SHELLEY FEUD  EVER AGAIN.  THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.  LEAVE THAT  SLEEPING DOG TO LIE  IN THE PAST WHERE IT BELONGS. 

<sigh> kitkat, I was in the hospital and had surgery twice in the past three months, but I didn't give my dogs to anyone before I went in--I had no reason to think I was going to die. Do you rehome your dogs every time you have to go into the hospital for a procedure?

The only thing ALL parties in this mess seem to agree on is that this woman's death was completely unexpected by everyone...including the woman herself.

zmod, THAT'S exactly what bothered me about this from the start. It's been thinly veiled from jump, despite it being apples & headcheese.

I will agree with you Hexe, that a certain breeder does have a Public Relations type problem, but I don't think that is caused by any gender bias or by refusing to be bullied.  

If anything hangs her it is her own posts in my opinion.  Some like her stances and some don't.  But all in all it is probably smart business for her because she has probably gained more sales then lost thru her internet presence.

There is no shortage of sucessfull women owning boarding kennels, breeding, or on the field.  The vast majority of them will not allow themself or their dogs by extension to be bullied and yet do not have the same problems.

I hope everyone walks away from this thread thinking about what will happen to their dogs if they die and making their wishes known and preferably in writing.

I hope every breeder, friend, and owner, if they ever find themself in a situation like this will step back, put their ego's aside and think "What is best for the dogs?"

And I hope that everyone that enters into a contract as either a buyer or seller of a dog will realize that the contract is really only the minimum of what is expected of both parties and that the ultimate goal would be to work togather for the good of the animal.

Junior High?...Hell, I was thinking freak'n Pre-School.
I've said this to Molly before, I'll say it again....STOP throwing fuel in the fire.  It is NOT worth it.

~Brandi and of course, my Eichenluft dog - "Dugan"~