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by Smiley on 09 March 2012 - 22:03
Per OFA......"To my knowledge, no dogs have tested normal or carrier for DM and then developed the disease. However, there are other spinal cord/neurologic diseases that have the same symptoms."
Sara
Sara
by Nancy on 10 March 2012 - 04:03
Here is a link to the verbiage on the U of M webpage where they mention the two dogs with DM
Sounds like OFA is not in synch with U of M on this one?
I know Marjorie has posted about it.
More questions than answers. I think people still need to test, gather the data on a large population and see if it holds up.........I am not judging the test one way or the other but it does raise questions which are not answered.
http://www.caninegeneticdiseases.net/DM/testDM.htm
Sounds like OFA is not in synch with U of M on this one?
I know Marjorie has posted about it.
More questions than answers. I think people still need to test, gather the data on a large population and see if it holds up.........I am not judging the test one way or the other but it does raise questions which are not answered.
http://www.caninegeneticdiseases.net/DM/testDM.htm
by Abby Normal on 10 March 2012 - 09:03
Nancy
Agree with you 100%. A lot has been posted negatively about the test but so far there has been a lack of factual evidence relating to specific cases to support it. I hold a firm belief that people should still test, and it will provide data on a much larger population. In the meantime so far as I can tell, no dogs which have tested normal/normal have gone on to develop the disease, and so far 2 anomalies in carriers. If this is pure luck then it is pretty amazing luck. With the length of time the test has been available we are coming into that time frame when the test results are going to hold up or not.
I look forward to hearing Sara's answer from U of M, and I have also emailed them with a couple of different questions of my own.
Agree with you 100%. A lot has been posted negatively about the test but so far there has been a lack of factual evidence relating to specific cases to support it. I hold a firm belief that people should still test, and it will provide data on a much larger population. In the meantime so far as I can tell, no dogs which have tested normal/normal have gone on to develop the disease, and so far 2 anomalies in carriers. If this is pure luck then it is pretty amazing luck. With the length of time the test has been available we are coming into that time frame when the test results are going to hold up or not.
I look forward to hearing Sara's answer from U of M, and I have also emailed them with a couple of different questions of my own.
by Vom Brunhaus on 10 March 2012 - 14:03
Hi Blitz, long time no chat . Just a short on your subject matter.
As you may or may not know the Vestibular Syndrome can produce some identical symptoms as DM. Had a Sch 3 that developed it at age 13.
regards, Mike - Vom Brunhaus
As you may or may not know the Vestibular Syndrome can produce some identical symptoms as DM. Had a Sch 3 that developed it at age 13.
regards, Mike - Vom Brunhaus
by desertstorm3115 on 10 March 2012 - 15:03
I personally would like to know why more breeder's are not testing for DM (or hip ratings as well)?
This has been a problem for many many years. If other's claim to be doing this for 10, 20 or 30 years should they not know better by now not to breed any dogs without hip ratings or DM testing on their stock? Am I correct?
We finally bought our new GSD puppy, from DM clear sire & dam, hip rating's & title's. We are very excited waiting for her arrival! If we only knew when we bought our first GSD pup. We never regret getting her and watching her slowly lose her battle with DM. The emotional toll it took on our family was beyond words.
With this, we now have no further need for PDB and wish everybody well, we want to thank everybody that taught us all about breeding, buying, selling, training and of course all the drama that comes with different opinion.
With all said & done no matter what happens, in the long run it is the dog's that suffer. We as humane beings need to take more responsibility for the safety & well being of these beautiful and majestic creatures of God.
Bye all!
This has been a problem for many many years. If other's claim to be doing this for 10, 20 or 30 years should they not know better by now not to breed any dogs without hip ratings or DM testing on their stock? Am I correct?
We finally bought our new GSD puppy, from DM clear sire & dam, hip rating's & title's. We are very excited waiting for her arrival! If we only knew when we bought our first GSD pup. We never regret getting her and watching her slowly lose her battle with DM. The emotional toll it took on our family was beyond words.
With this, we now have no further need for PDB and wish everybody well, we want to thank everybody that taught us all about breeding, buying, selling, training and of course all the drama that comes with different opinion.
With all said & done no matter what happens, in the long run it is the dog's that suffer. We as humane beings need to take more responsibility for the safety & well being of these beautiful and majestic creatures of God.
Bye all!
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