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poseidon

by poseidon on 01 May 2012 - 13:05

Hi Blitzen, "weak disposition" sometimes triggers predatory response from other dogs.  That is what I mean. 

Anthony8858

by Anthony8858 on 01 May 2012 - 13:05

I would encourage everyone to watch the youtube videos and look for Kira 11 or Kira yelps. In this video a mature GSD stares down / stalks this pup while Anthony continues to film, doing nothing to stop what is going to happen. Another dog aproaches the adult GSD who quickly snaps at it sending it fleeing . At this point Kira aproaches ( not showing weak nerve ) and is pursued finally we hear Anthony say " this doesn't look good " and the camera stops. Even though the other GSD was playing, Anthony you let Kira down, you should have seen this coming a mile away. No matter the genetics I am not letting another dog dominate or attack my pup. This is not the breeder's fault you own this one all by yourself Anthony.


I honestly didn't expect that. Iwas kidding around, because just prior, she actually playing with the other GSD. That other GSD is a 11 month male, with a good temperament. He's there every day, and never an incident.

I took that incident as a friendly game of chcken, and I thought I was making a funny video.

Also, wacth th video carefully and completely. The other GSD NEVER pursued her. He stopped when she yelped. He wanted to play. I know that dog very well. I didn't expect Kira to yelp the way she did.

My "doesn't look good" was meant to be funny. I knew that she would either chase or get chased. It was her way of playing. I didn't expect what took place immediately.
YES, I acknowledged my lack of understanding at that point. I didn't get a REAL read on that situation.

In the events prior to and after, that GDS was chasing and being chased.


Just to clarify:

She was only 6 months in the video, and seemed at that point to have gotten past her issues.

Here's the video you're mentioning, and a video I took a few minutes later. They were all playing. before that happened.
Then she backed off, and chose to keep her distance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9clb8T2iSIY

Here's Bruno. He's the GSD pup that scared her. The chase is something they all do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgekylg7neU

Here's a recent video of her playing with a dog she trusts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDAn2yuGRME

Markobytes

by Markobytes on 01 May 2012 - 13:05

After watching the video again, it didn't look quite so bad. I will let my previous comment stand but it still shows the problem with dog parks. Play with other pups about the same size is great but the match up here was too unequal. Is this the initial cause of the problem?

Smiley

by Smiley on 01 May 2012 - 13:05

This is not related to thread but....Dog parks....yuck...*shudder*

Sara

Anthony8858

by Anthony8858 on 01 May 2012 - 13:05

After watching the video again, it didn't look quite so bad. I will let my previous comment stand but it still shows the problem with dog parks. Play with other pups about the same size is great but the match up here was too unequal. Is this the initial cause of the problem?


I don't diagree with the problem with dog parks. That video was a few months agao, and the few dogs in there were all friendly with her. It was a select group, that I knew wouldn't cause harm.

THIS was NOT the cause of the problem. This day was about 3 months after the incident, and I ahd thought that she was past it. Bruno was only a 9 mpnth male pup at the time, and very playfull. Kira was only 6 months, and was doing better.
Immedietely after this video, is when I realized that he insecurity was worse than I had thought.
I never expected her to yelp like that, when was NO threat. Bruno never growled or even nipped at her. He wanted to play chase, like he's done som many times before.

We no longer go there, with anyone other than a couple dogs her age, that I know 100% won't threaten

Markobytes

by Markobytes on 01 May 2012 - 14:05

The second Video looks great, this seems to be a great environment, Kira wants to join in. My apologies to you Anthony I was a little too hasty to post. I still do not think dog parks are good for young pups. 

by Blitzen on 01 May 2012 - 14:05

Dog parks should be illegal.

Smiley

by Smiley on 01 May 2012 - 14:05

Just my two cents..... I think an incident like you described would traumatize ANY puppy to some level. Maybe a super alpha, confident puppy would, eventually, bounce back quicker but I think ALL puppies would be traumatized by a loose dog attacking them. It's not your fault and maybe you didn't know how to react (which isn't your fault either if you are a first time dog owner).

 I remember when I was doing a short hike with my pup when a loose dog came flying out of sight of owners and bore down on her. I picked her right up and held her high over my head and yelled at the other dog saying a very firm" NO" a few times and for the owners. I had to protect her.  They didn't even apologize..idiots.

She has been almost attacked three times now.  I carry pepper spray with me now and I am not afraid to use it. Owners fault for letting aggressive dogs run loose.  

Sara

Smiley

by Smiley on 01 May 2012 - 14:05

Agree, Blitzen (about dog parks). 

Sara

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 01 May 2012 - 14:05

Dog parks are not a place where I would ever take my dog period for a lot of very good reasons.





 


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