Oelmans Dorf K-9's - Page 5

@workingdogz, just to clarify, my pup is from a different litter than the OP's, both of his parents have hip certification and his mother is schh1. The sire, sorro, is the only untitled dog in the pedigree for my pup.

As Kitkat says, nothing wrong with the v.Grafental dogs,
would be happy to have some in a pedigree.  Unfortunatety
its what else you put with good dogs in a breeding program
that either continues to improve upon them, or ruins their
influence.  From the info I have picked up about this breeder
I should think he could be relied on to do the latter, sadly.

guddu, the issue has nothing to do with the Grafental lines.  It has to do with a thread that was started by a 'puppy pumper-- who breeds for Pandas & whites, who purchases breeding stock from someone who breeds livers and blues--bragging about how fantastic an addition they'd gotten for their 'breeding program' from the kennel named in the thread title. That the kennel named in the thread title would sell any dog to someone who has such a 'breeding program'--they couldn't NOT know that their kennel would become associated with this 'breeding program' as a result--says that Oelmansdorf is concerned with only one thing: $$$.

Not my definition of a breeder that's deeply concerned with the welfare of the breed.

Everyone on this thread is to emotional and your not making alot of sense lets have a little more continuity and a little less emotion and fear of where puppies might end up your message is being missed.