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by VomMarischal on 21 October 2009 - 18:10
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
This is killing me! This guy wants 100% of my attention every minute of the day!
Help me! I'm too old to take him jogging or hunting or hiking or whatever is in his mind!
I just want GSDs!!! Wolves are not fun! Interesting, yes; fun no!
As The Fly said, "Help me!"
I have no idea what I expect anybody to do. Just let me vent, I guess! Hey, pity would be nice!
This is killing me! This guy wants 100% of my attention every minute of the day!
Help me! I'm too old to take him jogging or hunting or hiking or whatever is in his mind!
I just want GSDs!!! Wolves are not fun! Interesting, yes; fun no!
As The Fly said, "Help me!"
I have no idea what I expect anybody to do. Just let me vent, I guess! Hey, pity would be nice!
by vhsdogs on 21 October 2009 - 20:10
VomMarischal,
No pity here....LOL... but some envy. Good for you taking this fella in sounds like a very interesting challenge
Jim
by VomMarischal on 21 October 2009 - 21:10
ENVY? No reason to envy me! I can ship him right out!
by CrysBuck25 on 21 October 2009 - 21:10
Definitely wolf and GSD...No doubt about it.
Good luck finding him a home that is equipped to handle him. Do some research on the various wolf rehab places around the US, contact them and see what they can tell you. This is just not the kind of dog a family can handle, and he's not going to be the type that can be shut in the house while his people are gone, and be content. No, no, no. I had a brief experience with a young wolf hybrid dog (she may not have been a hybrid) that was almost solid white.
A leather leash was severed in one bite, no chewing needed. She could climb and jump like nobody's business, and we couldn't keep her contained while we tried to decide what to do with her. She got along with my Malamute mix dog, but the dogs we had that were lop eared, she kept trying to attack. She was fast, silent, and lethal. She vanished one night, no idea where she went, but I'd guess she decided that humans were just too much trouble, and decided to try her luck on her own. We never could find her, and maybe it was for the best, as my little brothers were very small. She was about 30 inches at the shoulder, and not very heavy for her size, bright yellow eyes like the above cross...Very agile, frighteningly so. I didn't feel like she was intimidating to me, but I learned really fast that she was a dominant female, and that she respected humans, but little else.
It was a strange but memorable experience for me, and it's not one I would want to repeat. A dog like that needs to go to a place like Wolf People, in Cocolalla, Idaho, where private folks have a pack of wolves and wolf hybrids that they use to educate the public on wolves. They sometimes will take a wolf or hybrid wolf, and try to incorporate it into their pack, since their pack members are all fixed (I think, anyway), their pack doesn't self-repopulate, so they add to it as members age. Just my two cents on this, but be careful. That is not a dog, and don't think for a minute that it is. They are majestic, incredible animals, but they can't be taken for granted.
Crys
Good luck finding him a home that is equipped to handle him. Do some research on the various wolf rehab places around the US, contact them and see what they can tell you. This is just not the kind of dog a family can handle, and he's not going to be the type that can be shut in the house while his people are gone, and be content. No, no, no. I had a brief experience with a young wolf hybrid dog (she may not have been a hybrid) that was almost solid white.
A leather leash was severed in one bite, no chewing needed. She could climb and jump like nobody's business, and we couldn't keep her contained while we tried to decide what to do with her. She got along with my Malamute mix dog, but the dogs we had that were lop eared, she kept trying to attack. She was fast, silent, and lethal. She vanished one night, no idea where she went, but I'd guess she decided that humans were just too much trouble, and decided to try her luck on her own. We never could find her, and maybe it was for the best, as my little brothers were very small. She was about 30 inches at the shoulder, and not very heavy for her size, bright yellow eyes like the above cross...Very agile, frighteningly so. I didn't feel like she was intimidating to me, but I learned really fast that she was a dominant female, and that she respected humans, but little else.
It was a strange but memorable experience for me, and it's not one I would want to repeat. A dog like that needs to go to a place like Wolf People, in Cocolalla, Idaho, where private folks have a pack of wolves and wolf hybrids that they use to educate the public on wolves. They sometimes will take a wolf or hybrid wolf, and try to incorporate it into their pack, since their pack members are all fixed (I think, anyway), their pack doesn't self-repopulate, so they add to it as members age. Just my two cents on this, but be careful. That is not a dog, and don't think for a minute that it is. They are majestic, incredible animals, but they can't be taken for granted.
Crys
by mobjack on 22 October 2009 - 00:10
by VomMarischal on 22 October 2009 - 13:10
Thanks a lot, Mobjack, I have emailed them all.
I hate the chain. I know it's awful. But I'm not willing to completely rebuild my yard for the sake of one foster, if you see what I mean. THAT is why I'm so desperate to get him out of here ASAP and into a place where people are already wolf-ready.
I have definitely been feeding him raw, but not the gorge-and-fast method. I will switch to that soon, I think. For now, I'm trying to put some weight on him. His pelvic bones stick out an inch, although for all I know they are supposed to on wolves!
Looking forward to hearing from those people!! Thanks again.
PS. he's only chained about 4 hours a day. The rest of the time he's in the house pestering hell out of me.
I hate the chain. I know it's awful. But I'm not willing to completely rebuild my yard for the sake of one foster, if you see what I mean. THAT is why I'm so desperate to get him out of here ASAP and into a place where people are already wolf-ready.
I have definitely been feeding him raw, but not the gorge-and-fast method. I will switch to that soon, I think. For now, I'm trying to put some weight on him. His pelvic bones stick out an inch, although for all I know they are supposed to on wolves!
Looking forward to hearing from those people!! Thanks again.
PS. he's only chained about 4 hours a day. The rest of the time he's in the house pestering hell out of me.
by SitasMom on 22 October 2009 - 15:10
he is stressed and desperately doesn't want to "go back"
he's working really hard for you to love him and its driving you crazy which will result in him "going back"
break the cycle and you will most likely have a really great companion.
don't break the cycle and his furure is bleak.
teach him obedience then teach him to stay in a specific spot in each room. extended down stay. this will help.
Place an eye bolt in a stud in your wall and chain him up insied your house, place a small rug for him to stay on, move him into each room you happen to be in, use a short chain. he may get used to having space in between you and he and stop being under foot.
get a riding crop and wave in back and forth parallel to you so the dog gets hit in the nose ever time its crowding you.
get a bicycle and take him on long rides to wear him out. (there's a device to attach to your bike for heeling)
if he plays fetch, go out side and do it for an hour, if his pray drthen try some obedience training.
try some obedience training.
a tired dog is a happy dog. a happy dog can think and learn
good luck
he's working really hard for you to love him and its driving you crazy which will result in him "going back"
break the cycle and you will most likely have a really great companion.
don't break the cycle and his furure is bleak.
teach him obedience then teach him to stay in a specific spot in each room. extended down stay. this will help.
Place an eye bolt in a stud in your wall and chain him up insied your house, place a small rug for him to stay on, move him into each room you happen to be in, use a short chain. he may get used to having space in between you and he and stop being under foot.
get a riding crop and wave in back and forth parallel to you so the dog gets hit in the nose ever time its crowding you.
get a bicycle and take him on long rides to wear him out. (there's a device to attach to your bike for heeling)
if he plays fetch, go out side and do it for an hour, if his pray drthen try some obedience training.
try some obedience training.
a tired dog is a happy dog. a happy dog can think and learn
good luck
by Sunsilver on 22 October 2009 - 16:10
Speaking of wolves...this awesome photo just won an award!
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8318226.stm
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8318226.stm
by Kalibeck on 22 October 2009 - 16:10
Please listen to the wolf people you have contacted....wolves & wolf hybrids do not learn like dogs do, & he is way too big & strong for you to provoke an attack by trying to train him like a dog.......I would not even suggest a 'training' method for him with out fear of having you injured or him euthanized. Do be careful of chaining him. And good luck....I hope one of those wolf places can accomodate him quickly....if you type wolf hybid into your seach engine it should bring up any number of wolf dog sanctuaries, there's even one close to us in NJ...not too practical for you, but a hopeful sign that there are folks out there who can help....! Best wishes, jackie harris
by VomMarischal on 22 October 2009 - 17:10
Well...in order to take him for a bike ride, I'm going to have to contact Michael Vick and ask to borrow his full outfit. The bigger the better. I can try to convince him it's one of the Twelve Steps to Making It Up With Dogs. Wow, I think I feel a book coming on!
I also think it's a bad idea to hit him (GREYLIN, I mean. It's a GOOD idea to hit Michael Vick). That said, I do have an E collar on him for emergencies. For example, at four o'clock this morning he stood on my head and refused to get off. So I said NO and zapped him. He then clawed at my head and chest for awhile until I couldn't take it, said NO, and zapped him again. I'm trying to teach him what NO means, because he's clearly never heard it before, or doesn't give a rat's patoot.
I don't think Greylin is related to real dogs in the SLIGHTEST. Pure mythology. This is much more like having a 6 month old colt in the house.
That photo sure makes them look like cool animals, though!
I also think it's a bad idea to hit him (GREYLIN, I mean. It's a GOOD idea to hit Michael Vick). That said, I do have an E collar on him for emergencies. For example, at four o'clock this morning he stood on my head and refused to get off. So I said NO and zapped him. He then clawed at my head and chest for awhile until I couldn't take it, said NO, and zapped him again. I'm trying to teach him what NO means, because he's clearly never heard it before, or doesn't give a rat's patoot.
I don't think Greylin is related to real dogs in the SLIGHTEST. Pure mythology. This is much more like having a 6 month old colt in the house.
That photo sure makes them look like cool animals, though!
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